X-Message-Number: 10052 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:39:59 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #10042 - #10051 Hi everyone! To Scott Badger: The idea behind vitrification is comparatively simple, although implementing it is not. The major difference is that the damage caused by FREEZING is avoided -- the tissues are put in a glassy state (recall that glass may be regarded as an EXTREMELY viscous liquid, not a solid). There are many ways in which people might be stored. Over time, even the methods of cryonic suspension have changed. (Years ago, DMSO was used on some patients; now, glycerol is used). It's not that I believe that cryonic suspension in general will be reversible before aging is solved, but that I believe that there are methods (vitrification) for cryonic suspension which can be perfected before aging is solved. There is an important distinction here. Right now, we do not have any method which would not require considerable advances in our technology to reverse. Many cryonicists do, however, believe that such a method is within reach. To Bob Ettinger: Please send me the references to the Russian paper you described/quoted. You may do so either by mail or email. I find it impossible to say very much from the quotes you give, which come out (this is NOT a criticism of you, but of their author) quite garbled. Best and long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10052