X-Message-Number: 10093
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:18:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Hitman <>
Subject:  A few more responses.

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> Message #10086
> From: Drew Skyfyre <>
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> Brett has hit one big nail on the head. The lack of faith in current
> cryonic suspensions.

This isn't really my problem.  I believe that those suspended today with
the best available methods will be revivied.  I just feel that it is
unlikely that I would recieve the best methods available.

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> Message #10087
> From: Thomas Donaldson <>
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> To Brett Corlett:
> First of all, not all people of your age die in accidents (I won't 
> discuss here the fact that death may not be sudden and there may be
> time for a good suspension even in case of accidents --- that seems
> clear but at the same time I do not have any statistics to back it
> up).
> 
> I've observed an interesting (and unpleasant) thing happen to people
> about the age of 30. Sure, they're young and can expect lots more
> years of life. BUT they discover that they have some condition or 
> other which (if it does nothing else, and it may do much more) impairs
> their ability to get life insurance. Like: they discover they have
> a tendency toward diabetes, and it's slowly getting worse. Or many
> other conditions. They may even learn that their relatives have
> gotten Huntington's Disease, an inherited condition which appears
> in middle age.

Just a note about this, in my case anyway I wont be learning anything
about inherited conditions as I am adaopted with no interest in finding
out.  On a side note does anyony out there know if that would effect
insurance premiums?

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> While I don't know how well off you are economically, you will probably
> be able to make good money once you graduate. And this says to me
> that ASAP you should get life insurance. Don't delay.

I kind of covered this in my previous post but I have said all along that
once I graduate and am employed I will be doing just that.
> 
> And just to be depressive, even older people can die in circumstances
> which make a good suspension difficult. An instance would be a sudden
> heart attack. For what it's worth, Alcor has worked hard on finding
> ways to get to people as soon as possible. Not only that, but they've
> made progress --- not that there isn't even more to do.
> 
This is a good point but doesn't really have anything to do with me, 
I live in Ottawa Ontario Canada.  From even Michigan were the closest 
service provider is it would be an 8 hour plus drive or a few hour 
plane ride as direct international service out of our airport is severly
limited meaning flying into Toronto and switching planes or driving up
which is still 4 1/2 hours away.  Also I am not to sure about (maybe Mr.
Best can answer this) present acceptance of the cryonics option in
Canadian hospitals and how they deal with the request.


> I'd say that the way to regard cryonics, particularly now, is as a 
> means to rescue you when it is possible to do so. You don't really know
> when and how you may become seriously ill and die. Some subset of those
> cases (and we're all working on making that subset as large as we
> ccan!) will be that in which you can be given a good suspension. And
> rather than simply decide that you're most likely to die in difficult
> conditions, you might think about arrangements which would allow rapid
> suspension (or increase its probability) in cases you might think at
> first don't allow. Then we'll all benefit.
> 

This is true, and I'd like to say I am not trying to be pessimistic, but
pragmatic.  When you have limited resources you have to use them as best
you can.  Lastly I'd like to thank everyone for their responses.  

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Brett Corlett

Faculty of Engineering, Carleton University
Suspension and Steering Team Leader, Formula SAE

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