X-Message-Number: 10221
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 16:33:52 -0800
From: Peter Merel <>
Subject: What else?

Robert Ettinger writes,

>Because of press of business of more immediate concern, I don't yet have the
>technical refutation of Goedel in a form I am satisfied with [...]

To say "Goedel is wrong" is to claim that Russell, who acknowledged
Goedel's results at great expense when they doomed his Principia,
was wrong. It's to say every computer scientist and mathematician
since Goedel, every one of whom has accepted the power of Goedel's 
formulation, is mistaken. 

Of course it's possible they are mistaken. A result of this magnitude
would be vitally important to all branches of science. But say only "I am
philosophically indisposed toward Goedel", or "I find Goedel's results
extremely disquieting" until you can give us a reasoned argument that we 
can discuss in a reasonable manner. To do otherwise makes folk worry
about monkeys flying out their butts.

>Also, some people will claim the equivalent of personal revelation 
>which bypasses argument. 

Hmm.

Peter Merel.

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