X-Message-Number: 10248 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 03:57:15 -0700 From: Peter Merel <> Subject: Riding for Falls and other amusements Bob on Goedel: lots of noise, no signal. Do the math or let it go. No shame in that. Thomas on words vs. math: sure, computability doesn't apply to words. Words are the language of specification; you can specify, for example, a machine that can solve the general halting problem, no worries. In fact I just did. Goedel only tells you there are inescapable gaps between what you can specify and what you can construct. Timur on reality: you say our constructions are similar, and so we can presume they derive from an underlying reality. I've seen people tango; when the music stops, where can I find the underlying dance? All on questioning emminence: question 'em! These guys all put their pants on one leg at a time. Just don't tell me the're wrong till you have proof. The Ominous Silence on Y2k: here's some *really* scary ones. If these don't freak you out explain it here so I can resume my normal sleep cycle: http://www.dpsv.state.mn.us/docs/infocntr/year2000/survey.htm http://www.cabq.gov/y2k/msr0698.html http://www.informationweek.com/newsflash/nf695/0812_st3.htm http://webserv.vnunet.com/www_user/plsql/pkg_vnu_news.right_frame?p_story=60461 Peter Merel. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10248