X-Message-Number: 10533 From: "Thomas Nord" <> Subject: To be or not to be concerned Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:43:30 +0200 This may be a matter for most Cryonicists, interested in longevity and something to come back to. Since only one seems to be the main opponent I'm not sure if this is a matter to pursue here, but like to wrap it up before it takes much more = time. I am not a technician to solve this, better on planting a seed in politicians as it works well here, perhaps not the same in US. Guess its = more or less the same. Technicians cant solve a political problem. There are no lack of researchers as far as I know to get out of the CO2-trap, = i.e. solarpanels improvements and new batteries coming up. But the people who sell oil coal and gas dont like to go out of business. I got into this more now when a small majority of politicians like to shut down a relatively safe nuclearplant here only for political = reasons, saying we may have to increase CO2 a transient time, against a majority of our population in many recent polls. We prefer nuc instead = of CO2 and its risks until the solarpanels etc. are out on the market. I also looked into this having lived in Melbourne and plan to migrate to a warmer place than here but not to hot. San Diego has its = earthquakerisks, CO2 are worse and new. The wellknown facts are the risks, not the result. Since the risks are new and may not be reversible, I prefer insurance. Oil is by the way also causing acidproblems all over my garden and our land, guess its the same in US. Oilprices has gone down! Peter Merel wrote: "As it is, I'm saving up for a deposit on a home in what I think will remain an orderly place even if worse comes to worst." In a diplomatic fashion I try not to get to personal but guess a lot of us are curious where and what this is? Guess you mean Y2K we all have = to think of, since you arent worried yet of the G.-effect. I like a quick solution and peace of mind, rather like to look for the G.-spot = and worry over the stockmarket. Absolutely right, it has been found, by at least some Danes, in ice the natural variations. The issue are the un-natural variations. One problem is who to believe. US are more money-market-oriented, here we pay more taxes i.e. to our Unis who dont get any private money at = all, and the government dont interfere in what they do. The G.-effect can also speed up a new ice-age. In the last one, northern Europe down to south of France, most of US and southeast of Australia = was under ice. The lovely Australia has its problems with some weather-disasters, but more with record-high skincancer-cases due to the UV-rays, caused by = damage on the ozonlayer, since they are so near Antarctica where its an "ozon-hole" now. Cars with catalytic converters are not "clean", they also produce CO2, and nitrous oxide as are damaging the ozonlayer. UV-rays also cause = cataracts and are harming growing algies seeds etc. Perhaps a small problem in south USA also, here it is. One political marketoriented way are to put taxes on CO2-sources. Otherwise its hard to get folks to put up $10-20k for solarpanels etc. = to get off the grid if possible. Small-scale logfire are no solution, known as a hazard now. Forgive me for the =3D to blame on MS Outlook Express. The last one was with MS IE 3,02 looked better. OE has more options. Sincerely Thomas Nord Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=10533