X-Message-Number: 11138 From: "John Clark" <> Subject: The Self Circuit Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:57:26 -0500 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In #11101 on Thu, 14 Jan 1999 Wrote: >I forgot to add that the "self circuit" does not >solve the problem of criteria of survival, because >it does not resolve the "paradoxes" of continuity. I can dream up some strange situations involving survival and continuity but I can't think of any paradoxes. >But it does tend to weaken any concept of survival >through duplicates, because it tends to support the intuition that >a person at another location cannot be you. Why not just build another person with another identical "self circuit"? I've never understood why this "self circuit" idea of yours is needed any more than we need a "Beethoven circuit" to explain how my radio can receive the Fifth Symphony. You say The Turing Test doesn't work because it can't detect the "self circuit", that means the "self circuit" doesn't effect behavior, so how and why did random mutation and natural selection ever produce it, and even if it did why didn't genetic drift destroy it long ago? I've asked this very important question many, many times on Cryonet but I've never received a serious answer. One last remark, passing The Turing Test is certainly not absolute proof of consciousness, it's just the best test for it that is available, that's why it's called the Turing test not the Turing proof. John K Clark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNqTHht+WG5eri0QzEQI07gCghOT0oebhbvzZ66CFk1w2zqg8QsYAn3Ws XNGYF559AxtFumDCPe/oIws3 =ssPL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=11138