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Subject: CRYONICS: Alcor Meeting Report
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 13:38:12 PDT

To Eric Klien, and any readers of his "corrections" to the Alcor September 
Business Meeting Report:

     When I first read your message, Eric, I considered responding to all 
of your points in turn.  But after rereading it, it's clear that you don't 
have a very good understanding of the way meeting minutes, and hence my 
business report (which is based on  the minutes that I write) are intended 
to function.  In fact, I specifically recall the long exchanges between 
you and Russell Whitaker, during which Russell tried to convince you that 
your Nevada "minutes" were actually a newsletter.  Russell apparently 
failed, since you continue to inject anecdotes, personal notes, and topics 
completely unrelated to cryonics into your "minutes."  (This isn't 
intended to discourage your activism in Nevada; I (like Russell) would 
simply prefer that you didn't call your monthly compendium of notes, 
observations, and opinions "minutes," as that can leave a bad taste in the 
mouths of people expecting actual, business-like *minutes*.)

     All of that aside, I also want to point out that this was a BUSINESS 
MEETING report, and is thus intended to describe the business that was 
dealt with.  Hence, the following statements by you are inappropriate:

"The fact that none of the recommendations by either Committee were 
approved or disproved by the board was not mentioned."

"The fact that Alcor "forgot" to put the Investment Committees on
the agenda for the day was not mentioned."

"The fact that Michael Riskin's offer was not immediately accepted and 
that Alcor told him that it would be difficult to provide the necessary 
materials to him was not mentioned."
 
"The fact that Michael Riskin told the board that he thought it would just 
take a little xeroxing to provide him with the necessary materials was not 
mentioned."

     Come on, Eric, I'm not a court stenographer!  You not only want me to 
list EVERY THING THAT HAPPENED and EVERY THING THAT WAS SAID, you seem to 
want me to list the things that DIDN'T happen and WEREN'T said.  Even as 
terse and to-the-point as I keep the minutes, this month they were over 
12,000 bytes!  This meeting was over FIVE HOURS LONG.  The purpose of the 
minutes is not to report how every member feels about every subject (on 
and off the agenda) to the level of detail acceptable to each member.  The 
purpose is to describe the business at hand, the salient points, and the 
final resolution.  

     Most of your remaining "corrections" list things that happened, such 
as "the fact that both Committees submitted their recommendations eight 
days in advance," that you would like to see in the Business Meeting 
Report.  See all of my comments above about the purpose of minutes and 
Business Meeting Reports.  

     You also suggested I include the following slanted tutorial (after 
paraphrasing Dave Pizer's clarification of something Carlos said in 
response to your repeated accusation that Carlos is a liar):  "Of course, 
a deficit and a surplus are antonyms -- words that are opposite in 
meaning.  Another year running a negative 200,000/year Carlos "surplus" 
would put Alcor in grave financial danger."  That you would seriously 
request that I, as an objectively impartial minutes-taker, put a statement 
like that IN THE MINUTES, I can barely fathom.  If you have a serious 
correction to the factualism of the minutes or the Business Meeting 
Report, you will have to reign in your personal agenda and biases, or your 
comments will not be listened to.  

     All of THAT said, I will address your one valid point, and your one 
almost-valid point.

     You quote me as saying that "Dave suggested that Eric give written 
suggestions to the board--by a week before the next meeting--on how Alcor 
could handle its books to the satisfaction of Eric and other concerned 
parties."  You then accuse me of leaving out "The fact that Eric responded 
later by saying that the first thing that the members of the Committees 
would like to see was for their recommendations to be approved or 
disproved," and that "Until the board takes this action it should expect 
no further response by the members of the now disbanded committees."

     That is your almost-valid point.  Unfortunately, at the time you 
seemed to think that it was adequate to direct that comment to me and me 
alone, rather than waiting to be given the floor by the Chairman, 
announcing that to the entire Board of Directors, and allowing them a 
chance to respond to this.  The fact that I was sitting a few feet from 
you does not give you some kind of direct, do-not-pass-go access to the 
written record.  Again, this is the Business Meeting Report, not the Alcor 
/ Eric Klien Dialogue.  (By the way, I encourage you to go to the 
videotape to verify this.  I am as prone to selective memory as you are, 
and would unflinchingly amend the minutes--and apologize--if I'm 
mistaken.)
 
     Finally, your valid point:   "The fact that Michael Riskin also 
offered to do a free informal audit of Alcor's books was not mentioned."

     Mea cupla.  The September Minutes of the Alcor Life Extension 
Foundation will be changed to reflect this (assuming the Board votes to 
accept this change).  (And just so you don't suspect that this omission 
was some sinister attempt to sweep this topic under the rug, you should 
know that Michael's offer has already been accepted; he will be here 
tomorrow to begin his audit.)

     In closing, I will offer some advice, thinly veiled as a rhetorical 
question:  

     Are you trying to help Alcor, or vindicate Eric?  

Whichever it is, in the future it will probably serve you best to separate 
the two.
   

--Ralph Whelan


P.S.  Anyone interested in video tapes (VHS) of the Business Meetings can 
purchase them from Alcor for $25 each.

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