X-Message-Number: 13358
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:06:22 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #13353 - #13357

About the tapes I mentioned:

In 1998 Saul and Bill organized a seminar to discuss the 
scientific work they had supported up to that time. This work involved
work on better ways to freeze/vitrify tissue plus better means to
revive someone who had gone for more than the maximum 10 minutes at
room temperature without heartbeat or breathing.

This work was indeed successful, in that it produced several new
cryoprotectants better than those that had existed before (better,
in particular, than those that Greg Fahy had devised for vitrification
... Greg was one of the workers in this effort). 

Because I was at that time moving to Australia, I could not attend
their seminar, but it was heavily attended. You might look back to
statements on cryonet of about that time: April 1998.

However I did buy tapes of every talk given in that Seminar. I am
more than happy to send them to anyone in Australia, but I also 
think that if you aren't in Australia you ought to be able to get
a loan of them more quickly by other means.

This work, plus my following of developments in Cryobiology, has
done a lot to convince me that we may well be able to greatly
improve our suspension methods within 10 years ---- IF (and its
turned unfortunately into a BIG if) we can raise the required money
to support this research.

So those are the tapes I mentioned. I also discussed this work in
an issue of PERIASTRON. One problem with it scientifically (which
I understand as a matter of politics, though it has never made
me happy) is that they quite deliberately hid the actual composition
of their new cryoprotectants.

			Best and long long life to all,

				Thomas Donaldson

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