X-Message-Number: 13636 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:35:59 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #13622 - #13629 Hi! There seem to be a significant number of people in Asia who would like to take advantage of cryonics but do not believe they can easily do so. Since years ago I basically started the Australian Cryonics Society, I have a bit to say on that question. The very first point I will make is that there are steps you can take which will help. Not that they solve your problem completely, but that they will solve some of it, and thus narrow down what you have to do. It happens to be a very interesting fact that quite often, people do not die suddenly all at once. Instead there may be 6 months warning that they are fast going downhill and therefore will need access to cryonic suspension several months from then. Be warned: many doctors, even in advanced countries, will try to make their patients believe that they are going to get over their problem. If the arrangements have been made beforehand, then even 1 week of warning would allow your friends to take you to the US or other country (England would be next) where they could be frozen WITHOUT any issues of citizenship. Yes, if you die suddenly this idea doesn't work, and ideally you want a cryonics society with a full set of suspension equipment and people who know what to do nearly. The problem is that getting such things is not going to be easy nor will it happen soon. And if you do something which at least helps get you suspended in the majority of cases, then you've done something which takes you forward. And forward steps do help --- they convince others not to stand on the sidelines but to come forward and help. In short, they help work toward that fully set up cryonics society you are wanting. Incidentally, there is at least one book which looks not at DEATH RATE but at the entire process by which people REALLY die, as distinct from what happens in books, films, and common belief. I'm sure that there is also variation with country, but this is the best I know of, and if you can get it it's worth a read. The book is A Cartwright, LIFE BEFORE DEATH. It may be hard for you to find but if you can find it, read it. Best wishes and long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=13636