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From: "Gurvinder Bagga" <>
Subject: Reanimation issues
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:27:38 +0530

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Hi everyone,


Thomas has not replied to my previous post about neurons, but I feel that we 
have to discuss all the aspects related to cryonics so that we find solutions to
each and every problem being faced by us ( and the problems are not small).


Here are a few more for those who are interested;(all are different events 
unrelated to each other but equally likely).


-  On 1st Jan 2001 we find 1000 frozen bodies , on an ocean floor, which are 
found to be about 10000 years old (Atlantis discovered?). The bodies are in 
excellent condition and we notice that the freezing techniques employed by these
people was atleast twice as good as our best today. Who takes charge of these 
bodies? If revival mechanisms become available in a few years are these dead 
people revived. Who takes the decision and at whose cost? Or are they put back 
in the ocean? Who decides that?


-  On 30th March 2030 there is a nuclear war between China and the US. The US is
nearly destroyed before they can react. Whatever remains of the economy falls 
into chinese hands. So does the frozen bodies at ALCOR and CI (these managed to 
survive the nuclear attack). Now what?


-  On 15th September 2075 the first cryonically suspended person is revived 
using advanced nanotechnology, quantum computing and artificial intelligence. It
has been decided that one person will be revived every two years to see how 
they respond and also to take care of any pitfalls along the way which might 
require innovative solutions and might take a lot of time. The person recovers 
very well but there are other problems. There is no government to take care of 
the unemployed. This reanimated person did not have any assets at the time of 
death but only his insurance policy which paid for his suspension( and anyway 
the current 'american dollar' is worth twenty times less than the dollar in 2000
when the person was suspended). It's a harshly competetive world and people 
have to be highly qualified and trained to get any kind of work. Where does our 
reanimated person go from here?


-    On 5th of July 2150 an alien attack takes place. The Earth is captured and 
made a colony of the aliens. They also find 3000 suspended people at five 
different locations. What happens now?


-  On 15th of August 2230 the ozone layer vanishes. Almost all the white skinned
people perish. And along with them most of human civilization. When the dark 
skinned discover the bodies of 4000 suspended people they decide to empty the 
storage area for their own use and throw the bodies into a nearby river.


I am not a pessimist. I also belive that someday cryonics will succeed. But 
there are some things missing from the way we are trying to do this. I proposed 
last time a 'World cryonics conference' in 2003/04/05 but no one seemed to be 
interested. The above examples are only a few problems that we might face. There
are dozens more that we do not even know. If we don't think like a corporate 
organisation and have some kind of  image building excercise we are doomed to 
fail. By throwing ideas at each other on the net without any concrete growth 
plans or recognition by the public at large we are going to fail.


REMEMBER - WHEN THE EGYPTIANS BURIED THEIR ROYALS THEY MADE PYRAMIDS THAT STILL 
STAND AND ARE ONE OF THE WONDERS OF THE WORLD. THEY MADE A STATEMENT WHICH THE 
WORLD NOTICES EVEN TODAY.


Bye!


Gurvinder


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