X-Message-Number: 1413 Date: 09 Dec 92 01:36:03 EST From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: Re: cryonics: #1403 - #1405 To Brian Wowk: I can agree with you about the response of many environmentalists. How- ever I disagree that ALL environmentalists fall under that description. Remember than human beings have many different opinions and can't easily be encapsulated en masse as having only one. Speaking for myself alone, I would like to see attention paid to the damage done to wilderness areas; I favor the Conservancy Society because unlike many others they take a more market-oriented approach. No one I know would claim that I am antitechnology or anticryonics. Of course my interest in saving a forest remains less than my interest in saving my- self (or more generally, in saving "most" human lives). But usually that choice does not arrive so starkly. And as for "Nature", well, an interest in preserving some patch of "wilderness" does not imply in my mind any illusion that we are really in any sense leaving it to develop on its own independent of our activities. I just like such gardens, OK? If we move over to the issue of recruitment material, from the environ- mentalists I know, I'd say that they DO, as you say, form a group which has a significantly larger number of collectivists than others. And of course that means that not only are they poor material (when chosen at random!) for cryonics, but that a lot of their effort will in the end turn into destruction of their environment (look at what the Soviet state did compared to the US, to the "environment"). I don't suggest that we advertise in AUDUBON, for instance. But if a known environmentalist comes to us showing interest in cryonics, they should hardly be knocked back on that ground alone! Best and long life, Thomas Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1413