X-Message-Number: 15143
From: "Brent Fox" <>
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Subject: Re: Urban or Rual
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:43:00 -0500

Hello,

We have the technology to build a "S.S. Birdseye", but the cost (now) would
be prohibitive to build, and launch.  If, "S.S. Birdseye" were to be
launched into a comet type orbit, then there would be several factors to
worry about.  Here's just a few I can think of right off:

1) Micrometeor impacts
2) Radiation
3) Memory of *why* "S.S. Birdseye" is out there (If it's in a large orbit -
many, if not hundreds of years could pass before it comes back our way)

>
> On the other hand, we have the technology even now to send vessels into
> long slow comet-like orbits. And with appropriate reflective shielding,
you
> wouldn't even need refrigeration to maintain a temperature close to 0*K!
(Or
> at least much lower than could be maintained on earth.) Of course there's
> still no guarantee of safety, e.g. against meteors, or against a hostile
> reception committe on the next approach to earth. But I'd much rather take
> my chances out there.
>
> Pat Clancy

I'm glad Alcor did not choose the abandoned missile silo.  It's probably
still targeted by Russian nukes.   If Alcor (or any Cryonics Organization)
wants to think about long-term, then a rual area, away from metropolitan
centers is the best bet.   Large cities (such as Pheonix) are prime targets
for terrorist attacks (biologic, "dirty nukes") not to mention an all out
nuclear war between the US and (insert: Russian, China, etc).   As stated by
officials, "It's not a question of if a terrorist attack will happen here,
it's a question of when."

If a "cryonics terrorist" wants to hit a cryonics facility and is determined
to do so, then it dosen't really matter where the facility is located.  They
would find a way.

With Alcor's current location...kiss it goodbye if Phoenix is hit by a nuke.
Fallout (lethal radiation levels) would be immediate in Scottsdale (if it
wasn't blown away).   A remote rual area, although would probably have to
deal with fallout, would stand a far greater chance of surviving a nuclear
war.

In general, a remote rual facility would need:

1) Adequate security (alarm, and personnel)
2) Ability to make LN2
3) Alternative power suply (generator, solar, etc.)

Sorry for the long rambling...  Good thread to ponder over.

Brent
"The Fox Den"
http://home.att.net/~bfox/index.html

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