X-Message-Number: 15578 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:42:39 -0500 From: <> Subject: storage in liquid nitrogen after thousands of years (re: 15572) Paul points out in message 15572 that even in liquid nitrogen, deterioration takes place after thousands of years. I don't want to contest this, and it is arguably conceivable that some or perhaps even all current patients won't be revived in 1000 years. But i think we can still expect some advances in 1000 years, which is a long time to think about the problem, after all. In particular, i think it's reasonable to expect better ways to store patients---perhaps in liquid helium, or perhaps there will time stasis or other exotic technology. So if we make it 1000 years, and it looks like it will take 10,000 years, i think patients still could be preserved by storing them in a new medium. (Maybe this is even covered in Ettinger's first book?) I'm not trying to urge complacency here, and any new methods that look effective should be investigated as resources permit. And i think everybody appreciates the work being done by INC, 21st Century, Alcor, CI, and others to improve suspension methods. I just want to claim that concerns about disintegration in liquid nitrogen can be reasonably deferred. dan Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15578