X-Message-Number: 15642
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:01:35 -0500
From: Paul Antonik Wakfer <>
Subject: Re: #15634 - 30% vs 70%
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> Message #15634
> From: 
> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:31:13 EST
> Subject: wakfer note
> 
> Wakfer and John de Rivaz had requested the number of CI patients who had
> signed up more than two weeks before death, and I answered 26 out of 37.
> 
> Wakfer then wrote:
> 
> >The above data means that under 30% of CI patients were signed up for
> >more than two weeks before cryopreservation.
> 
> First, I can't resist reprimanding Wakfer, who prides himself on exact
> language, for saying "data" when he meant "datum."
> 
> Second, he got it backward--there were more, not fewer, who were signed up
> for more than two weeks prior to death. What a horrible blunder! By a
> professor of mathematics! I'm shocked and dismayed!

I wish to thank Mr Ettinger for correcting my simple misinterpretation,
in such a noble and kindly manner. I had been frankly surpised that it
was so many, and Kitty also had read Mr Ettinger's statement (which is
not reproduced exactly above as it was in my post) and somehow also got
it backwards. I admit that this was very stupid of us but then people do
occasionaly make mistakes, and I am always very quick to own up to any
that I make.

However, even 30% being signed up at the last minute (within two weeks
of cryopreservation) is a significant number, and this "datum" still
supports the case that I was making against Mr Smith's arguments. And
the 30% does not even include the last minute case who Mr Ettinger has
agreed "sat around" for 3 weeks, albeit on dry ice. I wounder how many
more patients were signed up within 6 months of cryopreservation. Lots
(probably most) of terminal patients have that much notice of impending
death.


-- Paul --

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