X-Message-Number: 15943
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:57:41 -0800
From: Lee Corbin <>
Subject: Re: Trust In All-Powerful Lords

Eliezer S. Yudkowsky, by way of Sabine Atkins, wrote

> Lee Corbin wrote:
>>
>> Evidently, I did not make myself clear.  What _exactly_
>> do you intend to do with peaceful yet very advanced
>> entities (such as many of us hope to become) who intend
>> to live outside the control of your AI?  (Please be
>> specific.)

> Unless it can be demonstrated as effectively certain that you
> are, and will remain, peaceful yet very advanced - i.e. will
> not create a simulated civilization and torture it, nor take
> actions that lead to that possibility - then I think the right
> to life and freedom of a trillion potential beings will probably
> outweigh your (admittedly real) volition to step outside the Sysop.

Alas, my question "What _exactly_ do you intend to do..." has not
been answered specifically.  I won't ask a third time.  It's clear
that formulating a candid answer is difficult for some reason.

So let me guess, based upon this last paragraph.  Should I, or
any other entity refuse to be completely analysed by the AI or
SI or whatever, and we persist in desiring to live outside the
control of it, then we will be forceably brought to heel by
whatever means that are required, including invasion and
violent conquest.

Later, after all the horrors and devastation of the war, and the
rewriting of the Lee Corbin entity so that it is more compliant,
the excuse will read something like "Well, what could you expect?
The entity persisted in not trusting us.  Us, of all people!
(Or "Me, of all entities!", if it is the Sysop or whatever speaking.)
Don't blame us (me) for the war.  And any of the rest of you, who
think that you can band together to resist assimilation, take what
happened to Lee Corbin and his wealth as an object lesson."

Okay, just wanted to know.

Lee

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