X-Message-Number: 1689
Date: 28 Jan 93 23:57:23 EST
From: Mike Darwin <>
Subject: CRYONET Re: Pizer's inquiries about Saul

To: INTERNET:
Date: 26 January, 1993

     I am deeply sorry if anything I said in my recent postings to Dave 
offended him in any way.  This was certainly not my intention.  And I 
certainly don't hate or dislike Dave.  I consider Dave a friend. Good 
heavens!  I have a very Christian attitude about such matters: I believe 
you should love the sinner and hate the sin.  Dave's behavior is, of 
course, completely separable from Dave...

     However, I must admit that Dave *has* got me thinking.  If we need to 
investigate the past history of "influential" Alcor members like Saul to 
make sure that they do Alcor no harm, well then it only makes sense that 
we investigate the backgrounds and pasts of the Alcor Board Members since 
their VOTE on critical issues gives them ever so much more power.  I mean, 
Saul has no more or less tools at his disposal to influence the course of 
events than any other Alcor member.  As far as I know he has not used 
coercion or threats of any kind, let alone actual physical force or fraud.  
So in other words, all Saul can do is use his record of past performance 
(i.e., personal credit) and his powers of verbal persuasion to influence 
the Board or Members and thus influence the course of events.  These are 
essentially the same tools any other member has, including Dave Pizer.

     However, unlike Saul, Dave can vote and what's more he holds a 
position as Alcor's Treasurer -- a critical role with added responsibility 
(and we all know how important one vote can be, don't we?).  Consequently, 
I think we should have a very careful investigation of all the Alcor Board 
Members.  And since Dave was the one who pointed this grave deficiency 
out, I think it only fair that he be first.

     So, herewith, in the same spirit and hopefully in the same genteel 
way that Dave has been asking Saul questions I will now ask him a few 
questions:

     1) I understand from previous conversations that you have been 
involved in many lawsuits as defendant in the course of your various 
business dealings.  Could you please list these legal actions and disclose 
the outcome including any judgments against you.  It would be especially 
helpful if you would give the case numbers and other information so that I 
can talk with the Plaintiffs.

     I ask this question because an individual's history of business 
litigation is directly relevant to their performance of their duties in 
the conduct of Alcor's business as a Director and Officer.

     2) I understand that you were involved in an altercation with the 
police in a community where you lived that resulted in your arrest and 
your subsequent filing of a false arrest suit which you lost.  Could you 
please provide information on how I can access the records of this case.  
I would also like your permission to obtain copies of the police report 
made out at the time you were arrested.

     3)  Are you in compliance with all laws, State and Federal in the 
operation of your various businesses? As you have stated many times, 
indictment, let alone conviction on any criminal or civil charge, would be 
a very serious matter for Alcor; reflecting very badly on Alcor and 
perhaps bringing other government agencies to bear on Alcor.

     I would particularly like information on your employees FICA and 
State withholding taxes, workers compensation, etc.  

     4) Are there any incidents or events in your personal business life 
which might call into question your good judgment or your ability to make 
sound judgments for Alcor?  This is where your personal history of 
litigation and arrest, if any, will be particularly helpful.

     5) Will you please provide a comprehensive history of your personal 
and professional life since circa 1968.  A list of all business ventures, 
their disposition, any litigation associated with them, bankruptcies, 
etc., would be most helpful.

     6) Have you ever used any name other than David Pizer?  (This is a 
question you have asked Curtis Henderson about Saul, so I know you won't 
mind me asking it of you).

     7) Please list any time you have served in any county jail, State or 
Federal Penitentiary.

     Hopefully these questions will help us all to determine your 
suitability to continue to serve on the Alcor Board or even to interact 
with other Alcor members.  Of course, it must be pointed out that you are 
only the first, and that these questions represent only the beginning 
since once I have your detailed responses I will be in a better position 
to ask more relevant questions still.

     Dave, your generosity, decency, and insight in this matter astounds 
me.  You have opened up a whole new world for me.  Naturally we can't stop 
at Board Members or Influential Members.  Why, any member might become 
influential at any time.  Clearly it would be best if a  very thorough 
background check was performed on everyone joining Alcor.  Certainly this 
MUST be done on the OMNI Contest Winner since this individual will be very 
high profile with the media.  Alcor must make very sure that this person 
in no way represents a threat.  Not just a physical for the lucky winner, 
but thorough background check and a psychiatric exam too!

     In reflecting on all of this I must say that I'm glad I got out when 
I did.  You know I'm just not sure a shot at immortality with Alcor is 
worth it.  Leastwhile not as long as you're on the Board.

     Oh yes, I almost forgot!  Since you are so interested in history I 
would suggest you make a trip to the public library and look up a fellow 
by the name of Robspierre.  I believe that you and he will someday have 
much in common.

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