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From: "Trygve Bauge" <>
Subject: Definition of the word cryonics.
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:32:00 +0200

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Trygve's second post (2 out of 4) to Cryonet for July the 6th, 2001.

The goal is personal life-extension,

or rather to survive as a continuation of oneself to the highest possible 
degree.


When it is not possible to survive as a 100% continuation of oneself, the goal 
opens for the whole specter between 100 % survival and 100 % extinction.

In this regard, Cryonics is just one of many means.


So far cryonics have been used as the name on the process of freezing dead 
corpses, heads, brains (and even tissue samples) with the purpose or hope that 
this might make it possible sometime in the future to bring back to life the 
dead people involved.


Present cryonics organizations have frozen both humans and pets. They have 
frozen corpses, heads, brains and tissue samples in various stages of 
deterioration from just dead to long dead or even long burried.

So far all this has been called cryonics.


If some people now want to reserve the word cryonics for the freezing of people 
under the most ideal circumstances, then it is a little late now to change the 
definition of a word that already has a different meaning.


Furthermore if we use cryonics only as a name for the freezing of people in such
a way that these can be brought back alive, then some critics might rightfully 
say: that no one frozen so far might fall in the category!

Any accusation that I am doing this for the money, falls on its own absurdity:


I have assisted this lady from Australia for 1 month now, without asking nor 
receiving one penny. Several years ago I assisted Hindal in the freezing of his 
mother, and Saby in the freezing of his mother , also then without getting my 
expenses covered. I have also assisted for free in many suspension requests that
never led to a suspension.


So far my involvement in cryonics has been a continuous outlay of time and 
money.


I am involved because I want to be frozen under the best possible circumstances 
myself,

and to accomplish that we have to establish more organizations, and better 
services outside the United States too, since it is clear that still more people
fall outside the services provided by the present US organizations, and miss 
the cryonic life-boat alltogether.


Witness the many post mortem requests that the cryonic organizations get, and 
that they in my opinion does not do enough to assist.


The prevailing attitude seems to be to let all but the best post mortem request 
cases rot, while I see some value in maintaining even more decomposed corpses.

See other articles I have posted on the topic at Trygve's cryonics forum:

http://network54.com/Forum/136627

Sincerely,

Trygve Bauge



Ps. Please post any responses to my cryonics forum so that we do not clogg up 
cryonet.

Thanks.

Trygve Bauge


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