X-Message-Number: 16952 From: "john grigg" <> Subject: when will indefinite lifespan finally be here? Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:24:24 Hello everyone, The very interesting topic of just when indefinite lifespan will be reached, and who will benefit is being discussed on the extrolist. I thought I would share my post about it. Input from all of you would be very appreciated. thanks, John Reason wrote: > > ---> Spike Jones quoting Mike Lorrey > >> I personally expect anyone with a more normal > >> expectancy who is 30-35 today to make it to the point where practical > >> immortality is attained. > > > >I pretty much agree with Mike on this, which is why I > >am willing to go to extreme measures such as CR to > >scratch for just a feeeew moooore yeeeears. Im 40. spike > > --> Eliezer S. Yudkowsky > > > How old am I? Old enough to vote. Anything else is on a need-to-know > > basis, and you don't need to know. But to my mind, the worry is whether > > my *grandparents* make it to the Singularity. I seriously doubt that even > > the old fogeys among us will miss the train. If you're under forty, you > > essentially have a cast-iron guarantee that you won't die of old age. You > > may be hit by a truck, die of a premature heart attack at fifty, or have > > an artery eaten by goo, but you won't die of old age. Hope this cheers > > y'all up. > > I really don't see this; really, really not. It just doesn't sound plausible > to be so absolute about this; it begins to seem like an issue of faith in > technology, in everything working out ok. Consider even just the trial and > error is-this-working timescales... > > Anyone want to roll out some numerical- and factual- based arguments on one > side or the other? > If I remember correctly, in The Alcor Adventure video Linda Chamberlain put the timeline where major killers(heart disease, cancer, etc.) are stopped at a mere ten years from now. I was rather taken aback by this proclamation. I hope it turns out to be true. My parents were skeptical to say the least when they viewed the video. So, if I just make it to the 200th anniversary of the L.D.S. church then I will be in the age of indefinite lifespan for everyone! It should make for interesting conversation in General Conference... And when will a "heartache cure" be developed? I need a high dosage of it right now to warm the ice water which permeates my brain and blood. I'm just not a drinker by nature. John _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16952