X-Message-Number: 16952
From: "john grigg" <>
Subject: when will indefinite lifespan finally be here?
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:24:24 

Hello everyone,

The very interesting topic of just when indefinite lifespan will be reached, 
and who will benefit is being discussed on the extrolist.  I thought I would 
share my post about it.  Input from all of you would be very appreciated.

thanks,

John

Reason wrote:
 >
 > ---> Spike Jones quoting Mike Lorrey
 > >>  I personally expect anyone with a more normal
 > >> expectancy who is 30-35 today to make it to the point where practical
 > >> immortality is attained.
 > >
 > >I pretty much agree with Mike on this, which is why I
 > >am willing to go to extreme measures such as CR to
 > >scratch for just a feeeew moooore yeeeears.  Im 40.  spike
 >
 > --> Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
 >
 > > How old am I?  Old enough to vote.  Anything else is on a need-to-know
 > > basis, and you don't need to know.  But to my mind, the worry is 
whether
 > > my *grandparents* make it to the Singularity.  I seriously doubt that 
even
 > > the old fogeys among us will miss the train.  If you're under forty, 
you
 > > essentially have a cast-iron guarantee that you won't die of old age.  
You
 > > may be hit by a truck, die of a premature heart attack at fifty, or 
have
 > > an artery eaten by goo, but you won't die of old age.  Hope this cheers
 > > y'all up.
 >
 > I really don't see this; really, really not. It just doesn't sound 
plausible
 > to be so absolute about this; it begins to seem like an issue of faith in
 > technology, in everything working out ok. Consider even just the trial 
and
 > error is-this-working timescales...
 >
 > Anyone want to roll out some numerical- and factual- based arguments on 
one
 > side or the other?
 >

If I remember correctly, in The Alcor Adventure video Linda Chamberlain put 
the timeline where major killers(heart disease, cancer, etc.) are stopped at 
a mere ten years from now.

I was rather taken aback by this proclamation.  I hope it turns out to be 
true.  My parents were skeptical to say the least when they viewed the 
video.

So, if I just make it to the 200th anniversary of the L.D.S. church then I 
will be in the age of indefinite lifespan for everyone!  It should make for 
interesting conversation in General Conference...

And when will a "heartache cure" be developed?  I need a high dosage of it 
right now to warm the ice water which permeates my brain and blood.  I'm 
just not a drinker by nature.

John
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