X-Message-Number: 17268 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:20:54 -0400 From: James Swayze <> Subject: What do you give a man who *knows* everything? An unanswerable question References: <> I'm probably going to regret this. Louis has not once conceded one single point made by any of us (caveat: that I know of). Only he has the right answer to *every* question. My personal opinion is that a person who cannot learn from others cannot teach them but here goes. Louis, St. Anselm once stated *the* ontological argument as: "God is a being which no greater than can be conceived". Now this was meant to point out the limits of the human understanding of god. But how much does god understand? Can god conceive of a being greater than him/it/herself? Merely have the thought? In response to my position that energy cannot, without the ordering effect of matter (something solid), hold information and hence I feel there are no *energy only*, spirit, ghost, etc. beings, Louis recently and hurriedly wrote that matter was merely super dense energy. I'm sure Louis expected this to be rebuttal to my position but Louis, wouldn't that be a solid and support my claim anyway? Louis I say you hurriedly wrote this because in your effort to rebut every single point made here by others, I don't think you well thought this one out. Do think longer on the one above. Cheers! James -- From the point of ignition To the final drive The point of the journey is not to arrive --RUSH Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=17268