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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 21:57:45 -0400
From: Wesley Eddy <>
Subject: Re: Cryonet #17302

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In Cryonet #17302 Yvan Bozzonetti wrote:
> I think the problem is here: your feeling.  I an a cold anarchist, without 
> particular taste or distaste for words, when I see an anarchic system 
> somewhere, I recognize it as such. Open source ideas are in the anarchy 
> domain, if you think this is offensive, the problem is with you. I restate 

> the basic fact: Anarchy is not disorder, it is organization without herarchy.
> Now you may argue that a particular project or part of it is only 62.456 per 
> cent anarchic in its concept, I think this without interest.

Your insistence upon association of open-source and anarchy demonstrates
significant lack of understanding in regards to both topics.  As someone
who has contributed to several open source projects, I tell you that there
is nothing even approaching remote resemblence to anarchy in the system.
Please forgive me if I doubt the OSS credentials of someone who uses an AOL
email address.  Your apparent mastery of the English language at no higher
than a fifth-grade level doesn't particularly help your cause.

Furthermore, as you have failed to even address my rebuttals to your claims 
of anarchy in Linux development and Napster file-sharing, I assume you have
concede defeat, and therefore consider this discussion to be closed, and
will no longer participate in its debate on Cryonet, where its relevency is
highly questionable.


> This subject is relevant to cryonics because the cryonics community can't pay
> for a herarchy based research system. Only an anarchy-like model could be 
> used to advance thing faster than today. Here is no political direct link 
> with that concept, it is only about efficient work organization in a 
> distributed ressource environment.

First of all, let me state that your paragraph is completely incoherent,
although the issue you bring up is somewhat interesting.  I will argue that
hierarchy (not "herarchy") will arise naturally as some researchers and
corporations either produce more compelling results than their colleagues,
or are more successful than their business competitors.  While I agree that
it would be ideal for new developments in suspension and reanimation to be
open and public, their development will certainly progress more rapidly with
the funding available in a closed corporate environment where edges on the
competition will be closely guarded, and their really isn't anything you
can do about that.  The fact of the matter is that there are relatively few
people with the knowledge and ability to perform scientifically valid cryonics
experiments, and so "efficient work organization in a distributed work
environment", as you mention, is really a non-issue.

-Wes

-- 
"I can't see too well, what's it all about?  I don't know man, did you poke
your eyes out?"		-Angry Samoans, "Lights Out"

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