X-Message-Number: 17316 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 21:57:45 -0400 From: Wesley Eddy <> Subject: Re: Cryonet #17302 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In Cryonet #17302 Yvan Bozzonetti wrote: > I think the problem is here: your feeling. I an a cold anarchist, without > particular taste or distaste for words, when I see an anarchic system > somewhere, I recognize it as such. Open source ideas are in the anarchy > domain, if you think this is offensive, the problem is with you. I restate > the basic fact: Anarchy is not disorder, it is organization without herarchy. > Now you may argue that a particular project or part of it is only 62.456 per > cent anarchic in its concept, I think this without interest. Your insistence upon association of open-source and anarchy demonstrates significant lack of understanding in regards to both topics. As someone who has contributed to several open source projects, I tell you that there is nothing even approaching remote resemblence to anarchy in the system. Please forgive me if I doubt the OSS credentials of someone who uses an AOL email address. Your apparent mastery of the English language at no higher than a fifth-grade level doesn't particularly help your cause. Furthermore, as you have failed to even address my rebuttals to your claims of anarchy in Linux development and Napster file-sharing, I assume you have concede defeat, and therefore consider this discussion to be closed, and will no longer participate in its debate on Cryonet, where its relevency is highly questionable. > This subject is relevant to cryonics because the cryonics community can't pay > for a herarchy based research system. Only an anarchy-like model could be > used to advance thing faster than today. Here is no political direct link > with that concept, it is only about efficient work organization in a > distributed ressource environment. First of all, let me state that your paragraph is completely incoherent, although the issue you bring up is somewhat interesting. I will argue that hierarchy (not "herarchy") will arise naturally as some researchers and corporations either produce more compelling results than their colleagues, or are more successful than their business competitors. While I agree that it would be ideal for new developments in suspension and reanimation to be open and public, their development will certainly progress more rapidly with the funding available in a closed corporate environment where edges on the competition will be closely guarded, and their really isn't anything you can do about that. The fact of the matter is that there are relatively few people with the knowledge and ability to perform scientifically valid cryonics experiments, and so "efficient work organization in a distributed work environment", as you mention, is really a non-issue. -Wes -- "I can't see too well, what's it all about? I don't know man, did you poke your eyes out?" -Angry Samoans, "Lights Out" --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7fx0XzBuYqbnj3IwRAj88AKCALTq9rIlbntDEZ3Ck4K0gum5gTwCfRfo/ PYvbAQ/jjy0sFQcoOjDHP6g=/WKT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=17316