X-Message-Number: 17326 From: "john grigg" <> Subject: removing the cargo cult science from cryonics Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:07:13 Eugene Leitl gave me permission to share this. I'm glad to see he's not as demanding as I had assumed in regards to cryonics being taken seriously! John I wrote: >Cryonics being a religion? Is it simply because it takes "faith" in >scientific progress, due to the fact cryonics is not presently reversible? >Must it be reversible to get your full acceptance? Eugene Leitl replied: Oh no, that would be an unreasonably stringent requirement. To remove the cargo cult from the cargo cult science in cryonics you have to have decent quality control and peer review to guarantee consistency of suspensions, and of course you're very much required to document what is going on in people's frozen heads at the ultrastructural scale during, freezing or vitrification. Once you have that documented, one can start having a scientifically rigorous discussion how much bad or good news it makes to reconstructability of the undenatured structure, and going from that trying to reconstruct the operational dynamics of that given chunk of tissue. For starters, peer review and consistent quality control comparable to what is state of the art in the medical profession would do plenty. (end) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=17326