X-Message-Number: 18162
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:52:44 -0700
From: Carole Eklund <>
Subject: New questions/pigs and Cayce

Re: Message #18159
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:15:35 -0800
From: Dave Shipman <>
Subject: Should we preserve the body too?

Friends,

Carole Eklund (#18142) asked a few simple questions, to which Robert 
Ettinger (#18144) responded with some simple answers. I suspect simple 
answers are what Carole really wanted.

You are correct, Dave, in assuming that I wanted simple answers; however,
this multiple feedback has increased my curiosity trifold, and (forgive me)
led to some new questions. One of these involves the biological
similarities between the pig's and the human anatomy.

1) It seems, to me, that many laboratory test could be performed on a pig
(as opposed to a monkey)that would, in turn, help to answer many questions
relating to the human body and its ability to reanimate. At the risk of
sounding a bit bipolar, I am thinking of a "twin pig" study, wherein one
pig would be suspended full-body, and the other only neurally. After a
suitable time limit, both could be "brought back," so to speak, and the
result would be both scientifically viable and extremely enlightening, for
all of us.

2) Not knowing whether or not pigs have a "personality," or soul, per se,
or if, in fact, they have any iota of thoughtful sensibilities whatsoever,
the psychological analysis and/or outcome would necessarily remain to be
seen. But since the human brain responds to its own neurotransmitters, is
it reasonable to assume that the pig's does also, and could not
nanotechnology somehow, eventually, capture some of the impulses before or
when they jump the synaptic cleft? And, if captured, could they not then
lead to some comprehension of how the memory bank collects its
data--thereby allowing science to store it for continued use at a later date?

3) Regarding the "memory" or "soul" of the suspended patient, it seems to
me that Edgar Cayce's theory of "reincarnation" might play a vital role
herein, being that Cayce's theory encompasses an end result of a collective
soul that has absorbed and thereby reproduced a plethora of other souls
into one united soul. [Cayce's version of immortality here: "The Story of
Edgar Cayce: There is A River, by Thomas Sugrue, 1945, Dell Publishing Co.,
Inc.] My thought is that if, when the soul leaves the human body, or else
is "captured" by other souls, is it not possible that when the soul is
revived or reunited with the suspended body, might it not then by a cumulus
of other, "suspended" or collective souls create a "new" soul? When "I,"
for example was reanimated, would I return as myself, or myself with a
number of up (or possibly down) grades? Would I assume my own persona or
someone else's, with my own being only a small part of the whole?

4)While I am not a member of any cryonics organization, these are some
questions that I, being the insanely curious person that I am, cannot
possibly leave unanswered, or at least diiscussed, while I contemplate my
own "future." If I should choose to be suspended, I want to know as much as
is possible about what I am getting into. So please forgive if all this
sounds a bit asinine!

Thanks to all,
Carole

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