X-Message-Number: 18278 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: loook-out's further comments Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:22:10 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- > From: "loook-out" <> > > save yourself first change later, changing sex is one of my major visions. It is also a highly controversial subject which can raise negative emotions in many people. If you add this to cryopreservation, which also raises powerful emotions, then you are doubling or trebling you problems with friends and family who may not bother to learn about cryonics objectively. You also say > i cant help but thinking that i am alone in this pursuit as far as my family goes. as mentioned They could well feel that you need psychiatric help with regards to your interest in changing sex, and when you are also interested in avoiding death they will be more than doubly ready to bring on the straight jacket. > what is the general consensus, do we have a better change > of a successful re-animation through vitrification, or > nitrogen freezing, there has not been much conversation along those lines? There is a lot of quite heated debate about this in the cryonet archives. The bottom line is that no one knows for certain what the future will bring and what is physically possible using technology not yet invented for revivals. To use vitrification properly you need to move your life to live near Alcor's facility and make more money available. As more money is involved, your family may have stronger objections ("I can't change the living room carpet every three years as I would like to because of your freezing plans"). Most people would say that neither vitrification nor "classical" cryopreservation will result in revivals - but of course they aren't omniscient so they are just stating opinions. > Robert, i live in mississauga, close to toronto, ontario You are probably near enough to the Cryonics Institute to make this a sensible choice if you decide not to move your life to another country. You need to study the arguments with regards to vitrification and decide for yourself whether it is worth the move. A move is of course another problem you would have to face with your family and friends. There are many others on this list that have a better grasp of the technical issues, but it certainly seems to me that there is little point in chosing vitrification if you also chose not to live near the facility. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://www.deRivaz.com my homepage links to Longevity Report, Fractal Report, music, Inventors' report, an autobio and various other projects: http://www.geocities.com/longevityrpt http://www.autopsychoice.com - http://www.cryonics-europe.org - http://www.porthtowan.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18278