X-Message-Number: 18342
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 05:54:25 -0800
From: James Bryan Swayze <>
Subject: Rumored Timeship proposed location
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> From:  (Rick Potvin)
> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:17:14 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Timeship Forum
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<first submitted to Rick Potvin's forum on subject of Timeship developments>


I think it is a serious mistake to locate the Timeship in Florida if in fact 
that is the proposed site location. The reason is quite simple but 
controversial. If Global Warming continues unabated most of Florida will be 
under water. I don't think the Timeship is designed to float or be submarine.


Global Warming has been disputed by mainly two factions. One being scientists 
with backing from environmentalists and the other big business supported mainly 
by the oil industry. The oil industry claims the other sides science is false 
and based on models that do not reflect reality. The scientists back their 
claims with trend data and ice core evidence of rising CO2 content in the 
atmosphere.


To me the argument is simple. Follow the money. Big business stands to profit if
the status quo remains and they try to use their own pseudo science to claim 
the Earth will be greener if CO2 rises to meet the needs of plants that require 
it for respiration. This seems like a reckless gamble.


The scientists and environmentalists don't have a money based ax to grind. They 
merely seek truth and the preservation of *ALL* life on Earth. The choice seems 
simple. If money were not an issue the oil industry could claim a higher moral 
ground but money is an issue so their arguments are suspect.


Florida is also ravaged yearly by raging hurricane storms. The trend for these 
has been one of ever increasing ferocity. Global Warming is also a factor here. 
As the planet warms more water is saturates the atmosphere. Water is a good 
conductor of heat and so traps heat in the atmosphere. This accelerates the 
warming and more. Water makes the air heavy and thus winds are more forceful... 
storms more powerful and destructive.


Here's a no brainer. Florida is HOT! The Timeship as I understand it, having 
talked with Stephen Valentine, the architect of the Timeship, and been asked by 
him to submit any ideas I had for it, is supposed to be self sufficient so that 
it will continue to operate despite local problems with power outages and etc. 
It seems to me that an air-conditioned room would be better suited for the 
operation of a suspension and perfusion than a room at the temperature of the 
hot outside atmosphere.


Furthermore it seems to me that LN2 boil off will be greater where the 
temperature differential between the top of a dewar possibly absent of liquid 
and that of the outside air. After all dewars are insulated to help keep the 
contents separated from the outside air and it's warmer temperature. Greater LN2
boil off will increase the maintenance costs of keeping the dewar housed 
patients safely chilled. In the case of a power outage, should there be any 
delay in auxiliary power taking over--after all one must consider all possible 
situations one is able to foresee, a warmer outside atmosphere will vastly 
shorten the amount of response time available to workout the power issue before 
damage occurs to patients.


Therefore through the above considerations it is my opinion that a cold weather 
environment location would be preferable to Florida any day.

James


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