X-Message-Number: 18542 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 05:53:06 -0500 From: Saul Kent <> Subject: Ettinger On New Cryonics Company Yesterday, Bob Ettinger posted the following comments on plans for a new cryonics company in Florida: >>> Message #18540 From: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:12:58 EST Subject: TDIS >>> TDIS Comments (Sent to Cryonet and CI directors) >>> Thanks to Saul Kent, Bill Faloon, and David Shumaker for the operating plan/budget for The Door Into Summer project (TDIS). As I read it, some of the elements include the following. >>> TDIS will be a for-profit company which will, among other things, perform "suspensions" or freezings or vitrifications (both whole-body and neuro) for members of cryonics organizations, who will then be stored long term at those organizations. >>> It will also provide equipment and guidelines for cryonics organizations to do the suspensions themselves, using TDIS technology on a fee/license basis. >>> The first phase of operation is estimated to take about a year, and will develop and demonstrate a capability to do cryopreservation with vitrification. >>> Initial operating cost (overhead) will be roughly $600,000 per year. Pricing will be a compromise between cost and affordability. Meeting costs will depend on expanding demand or/and generating revenues or supporting funds from "originators, investors, or cryonics organizations" or/and other activities. >>> Price for a vitrification cryopreservation performed by TDIS in Florida, exclusive of transportation costs and the charges of the cryonics organization providing the long term storage, will be around $40,000 for either neuro or whole body. If this holds up, it would mean that the cost to a CI member of whole body preparation by TDIS followed by storage at CI would be around $70,000 plus transportation. >>> TDIS Board of Directors will consist of William Faloon, Mike Darwin, Saul Kent, CEO (David Shumaker?), and three independent outside directors. >>> If I have misread any of this, no doubt someone will correct me. >>> Again, thanks to those involved and best wishes for the Florida meeting Saturday, at which I expect a few of our people will attend. You haven't misread anything in the plan/budget, but it's important to note that the plan is an initial proposal and that the details of the company may differ in various respects from what's in the plan. The meetings we have in Florida will play a role in determining these details. That's why it's important for those who are interested in the venture to attend these meetings. A reminder. The formal meeting is at the Life Extension Building, 1100 W. Commercial Blvd. in Ft. Lauderdale at 2 pm on Feb. 16. This will be followed by a buffet dinner at a condominium on the beach in Ft. Lauderdale (directions will be given at the meeting). There will also be informal meetings on Feb. 14 and 15. ---Saul Kent Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18542