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From: "Solion" <>
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Subject: Re:  portable cryogenic freezer 
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:45:16 -0800

((In the case of a sudden death,  there will be no doctor's certificate and
the case will be referred to the coroner who will undertake a post mortem
dissection, after which a certificate will be issued by the coroner, death
registered and we would be able to proceed with the best of our ability,
somewhat unsatisfactorily, with a six point perfusion. This being the best
available opportunity.

I would be unable, other than cooling down the body, to
proceed with a perfusion unless the death has been registered or we have an
absolute clearance from the coroner or a letter from the doctor giving
absolute authority to proceed. *** So if a death occurred say Saturday
evening,
it is unlikely that perfusion will proceed until Monday morning. ***
<<<<<<

This is nothing to do with differences between the cryonics providers, it is
the law and its enforcement. Cryonics organisations cannot disobey the law
without risking the lives of their existing patients))

I have also been working on a unit called the VPS, this is an emergency
cooling unit
designed to be used in such a situation,  The design is simple, there is a
neoprene collar that slides over the
patients head/neck and locks to a insualted cooling cylinder , A portable
cooler is filled with ice and a pump
circulates the ice water between the cooler and the cooling cylinder. Add a
set of peltier plates for active powered cooling ,  and you have a possible
solution as you wait for the red tape to clear.

Hopefully there wont be any objection to placing a self contained head
cooling device over the paitients head
untill a proper suspension can be done.

Lionel Vogt

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