X-Message-Number: 18663 From: "Solion" <> References: <> Subject: Re: portable cryogenic freezer Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:45:16 -0800 ((In the case of a sudden death, there will be no doctor's certificate and the case will be referred to the coroner who will undertake a post mortem dissection, after which a certificate will be issued by the coroner, death registered and we would be able to proceed with the best of our ability, somewhat unsatisfactorily, with a six point perfusion. This being the best available opportunity. I would be unable, other than cooling down the body, to proceed with a perfusion unless the death has been registered or we have an absolute clearance from the coroner or a letter from the doctor giving absolute authority to proceed. *** So if a death occurred say Saturday evening, it is unlikely that perfusion will proceed until Monday morning. *** <<<<<< This is nothing to do with differences between the cryonics providers, it is the law and its enforcement. Cryonics organisations cannot disobey the law without risking the lives of their existing patients)) I have also been working on a unit called the VPS, this is an emergency cooling unit designed to be used in such a situation, The design is simple, there is a neoprene collar that slides over the patients head/neck and locks to a insualted cooling cylinder , A portable cooler is filled with ice and a pump circulates the ice water between the cooler and the cooling cylinder. Add a set of peltier plates for active powered cooling , and you have a possible solution as you wait for the red tape to clear. Hopefully there wont be any objection to placing a self contained head cooling device over the paitients head untill a proper suspension can be done. Lionel Vogt Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18663