X-Message-Number: 18745 From: "Solion" <> Subject: Re: Cooling and Coroners Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:44:21 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1C828.EB5E08E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ((You cannot touch a patient (literally) let alone put a cooling helmet on him if he is a Coroner's or ME's case until you obtain permission. Permission is virtually never granted. In my many years of involvement in cryonics and medicine I have had only one exception to this; a gentleman in a small town with a known history of heart disease who was expected to die at any time and who was a known cryonicist. Over the Coroner's deputies objections his teenage son packed his father's head in ice. They chose not to intervene and later allowed the local cryonics people to pack the patient's entire body in ice once the physician had been contacted and agreed to sign the death certificate.)) Okay , This sounds damn frightening . How often does this happen? and what is being done about it? Has any group worked towards a list of ME's that are cryonic friendly? From your description it sounds like it is a compleat crapshoot as to if we can be suspended in any reasonable time. and that we might as well forget it. You know as well as anyone that the odds of being recoverd in such as situation as described is probly on the "impossible" side of things. So what are we to do? . If we can get an ME's approval . then the Cooling helmet (aka VPS ) will be a simple resolution to the problem. If not? You are saying that I and everyone else will rot. SO again . is there anything I or anyone can do? Or are well all just doomed. Hell at this point I am thinking bribery I think everyone should take a moment and think about what can be done. Personally come monday I will be making a few phone calls to find out what the Coroner or local ME's position is on cryonics. Perhaps I will find one that is positive about it in one of the local countys. Perhaps I can find a hospital in said county that I can be transferred to. At this point I just don't know. I am going to make an appointment to speak with a lawyer about this and find out what GA law is on this subject. I will keep people informed and let you all know what I find out Lionel ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1C828.EB5E08E0 Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18745