X-Message-Number: 19265 From: Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:13:42 EDT Subject: Re: references, Daemons and SUSY --part1_d8.19015f3c.2a3886e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit : Thomas Donaldson said: > A short reply. Yvan Bozzonetti has made several statements about the > Chinese (and for that matter other statements too). These statements > seem to conflict with those of others on Cryonet. > > I know this may be demanding too much, but why don't you give references? > My information comes from the news group: space policy. Here, some have maide the same mistake that the one seen on cryonet (chineses on the Moon in 2010. It seem the original information comes from the BBC News Service. Some have read that too fast and have drawn false conclusions. The content of the original interview has been given on space policy by a space specialist ( J Oberg or H. Spencer). If you are interested in that particular subject, you can find all the story in the NG archive. On other subjects, quantum mechanics and the like, I give no references, because I see Cryonet as an informal list, not a science publication media. So, I remain at the essay level. Many science related messages have something to do with differential geometry and differential forms. There is a "black bible" on the subject: Gravitation by Charles W. Missner, Kip S. Thorn and John A. Weeler, W.H. Freeman editor. You'll find all in it with good illustrations, This is a 30 year book, I wait to find better (beware, I am not objective , I am on the Kip S. Thorn fan club!). If I added references, some of my messages would become science papers or at least communications. I am not a paid scientist and don't want to make unpaid work. What I say in the science/technology domain is mostly for comparison in some years, may be next century. In the cryonics domain, reference must be added, particularly web pages because many readers may be interested to look at. For more general subjects, if someone want to use that information today, references can be found in a simple way: Look at key words in Google or download the abstracts of xxx.lanl.gov for the past years and use the search function on your word processor. You'll find the relevant papers. Another solution: ask me. Some informations are about my personal projects (brain reader,...) . This is given in the open source spirit, I don't try to build credibility in another mind so that someone else will devote its time and money to make that hapen. I'll try myself. Sometime I am on a subject I can't give good reference. Today, for example I was on the daemon problem, it seems these objects are not taken seriously because only one russian experimenter work on them He interpret its findings as Planck scale black holes, moving at some km/s only. On the other hand, underground wimp detectors find nothing, for example the Grand Sasso experiment under Italian Alps. I think another interpretation of the experiment is possible, that would establish a link with sprites in tunderstorms. Anyone want the full story? :-) There is the thinking: Sometime ago, someone has published a paper on Astro-ph about dark matter as high number eigen states of quantum particle in a gravitational potential. Someone else has verified at the Grenoble, France, Laue Langevin institute that neutrons energy states was quantized in a gravitational potential. My idea is that daemons are real, they are high eigen states of particles in the gravitational field of Earth and Sun. They may be uncommon particles, for example supersymetric one (SUSY) created in tunderstorms. What we call sprites, would be the ionising track left by the most unstabe ones when they disintegrate. The most stable would fall back on Earth some minutes, hours, days or years later. They would be destroyed by some hundreds of meters of rock. So, you have the idea and the track to find references. With them, you can write a paper: "Have we found supersymetric particles at last?" For references, look at daemons on xxx and sprites on google. Yvan Bozzonetti. --part1_d8.19015f3c.2a3886e6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=19265