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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:13:42 EDT
Subject: Re: references, Daemons and SUSY

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Thomas Donaldson said:

> A short reply. Yvan Bozzonetti has made several statements about the  
> Chinese (and for that matter other statements too). These statements
> seem to conflict with those of others on Cryonet. 
> 
> I know this may be demanding too much, but why don't you give references?
> 
My information comes from the news group: space policy. Here, some have maide 
the same mistake that the one seen on cryonet (chineses on the Moon in 2010. 
It seem the original information comes from the BBC News Service. Some have 
read that too fast and have drawn false conclusions. The content of the 
original interview has been given on space policy by a space specialist ( J 
Oberg or H. Spencer). If you are interested in that particular subject, you 
can find all the story in the NG archive.

On other subjects, quantum mechanics and the like, I give no references, 
because I see Cryonet as an informal list, not a science publication media. 
So, I remain at the essay level. Many science related messages have something 
to do with differential geometry and differential forms. There is a "black 
bible" on the subject: Gravitation by Charles W. Missner, Kip S. Thorn and 
John A. Weeler, W.H. Freeman editor. You'll find all in it with good 
illustrations, This is a 30 year book, I wait to find better (beware, I am 
not objective , I am on the Kip S. Thorn fan club!).

If I added references, some of my messages would become science papers or at 
least communications. I am not a paid scientist and don't want to make unpaid 
work. What I say in the science/technology domain is mostly for comparison in 
some years, may be next century. In the cryonics domain, reference must be 
added, particularly web pages because many readers may be interested to look 
at.

For more general subjects, if someone want to use that information today, 
references can be found in a simple way: Look at key words in Google or 
download the abstracts of xxx.lanl.gov for the past years and use the search 
function on your word processor. You'll find the relevant papers.

Another solution: ask me.

Some informations are about my personal projects (brain reader,...) . This is 
given in the open source spirit, I don't try to build credibility in another 
mind so that someone else will devote its time and money to make that hapen. 
I'll try myself.

Sometime I am on a subject I can't give good reference. Today, for example I 
was on the daemon problem, it seems these objects are not taken seriously 
because only one russian experimenter work on them He interpret its findings 
as Planck scale black holes, moving at some km/s only. On the other hand, 
underground wimp detectors find nothing, for example the Grand Sasso 
experiment under Italian Alps.  I think another interpretation of the 
experiment is possible, that would establish a link with sprites in 
tunderstorms. Anyone want the full story? :-)

There is the thinking: Sometime ago, someone has published a paper on 
Astro-ph about dark matter as high number eigen states of quantum particle in 
a gravitational potential. Someone else has verified at the Grenoble, France, 
Laue Langevin institute that neutrons energy states was quantized in a 
gravitational potential. My idea is that daemons are real, they are high 
eigen states of particles in the gravitational field of Earth and Sun. They 
may be uncommon particles, for example supersymetric one (SUSY) created in 
tunderstorms. What we call sprites, would be the ionising track left by the 
most unstabe ones when they disintegrate. The most stable would fall back on 
Earth some minutes, hours, days or years later. They would be destroyed by 
some hundreds of meters of rock. So, you have the idea and the track to find 
references. With them, you can write a paper: "Have we found supersymetric 
particles at last?"

For references, look at daemons on xxx and sprites on google.

Yvan Bozzonetti.


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