X-Message-Number: 19277
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 12:04:59 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Magnus Redin <>
Subject: What I mean.

Hi!

George Smith writes:
> I am an Immortalist.  Right or wrong, I expect to OUTLIVE all current
> religions and nations, and, due to genetic controls, even all current forms
> of the human species to include all current races.

Great ambition, I dont expect any extra life but is intrested in the
cryonics lottery ticket if it is cheap enough to not be a hassle
during the life I am fairly certain I will have.  I expect the
genetic controls to sooner or later be lifted or circumvented, the
future will probably be very varied and intresting.

> I will give you just one simple example anyone on the planet can see.  Why
> are the overwhelming majority of "impact craters" on the moon circular?  If
> these craters were caused by impacts, why are almost 100% of them strictly
> circular?  Does every rock of any size striking the moon suddenly veer to
> the vertical to create a circular crater?

> Or is there an entirely different explanation for the evidence anyone can
> clearly see?

That was an easy one. The impacting bodies hits the moon with many
km/s. The sudden breaking when the moons surface is hit releases this
large ammount of energy and vaporises the impacting body along with a
part of the moon. This ball of gas and plasma expands in all
directions, not only in the direction the impacting body hit the
surface. 

> I use this simple example as just another anomaly which is clearly
> visible and yet ignored. If impacts are NOT primarily responsible
> for the battered surface of the moon (and Earth, and Mars, and many
> other planets and moons), what IS? THAT would be the question to ask
> and seek an answer for, I should imagine.

Or one could learn a little physics. Make a thought experiment, some
calculations and experiments.

> It is this unwillingness to look at the evidence and ask such
> questions that troubles me about the direction of the dogmatic
> "sciences" today. The questions asked and the answers found must FIT
> or they are excommunicated.

You are free to propose a simpler answer that better fits the evidence
and experiments.

> As demonstrated by any careful reading of history, I expect the
> truly meaningful breakthroughs will have to come from outside the
> current cloistered dogma-bound groups. I am optimistic they WILL
> happen, I just doubt they will come from people who are (to quote
> Indiana Jones in "Raiders of the Lost Ark") "digging in the wrong
> place!"

Try standing on the shoulders of another giant then Indiana Jones. :-)

> You can't "fight" human belief systems. You can only wait until the
> weight of their error eventually cause them to collapse and be
> replaced by new and simpler theories which take into account more of
> the evidence instead of ignoring it.

You can figure out good ideas and spread them, even better then your
current mix. 

> I sincerely doubt that anyone reading this will consider my words
> enough to look at the evidence and change their opinion.

Considering evidence and ideas does not allways lead to the conclusion
intended. The one presenting them might be in error or it can be to
incomplete.

> I just thought I should explain that I really DON'T believe that my
> opinion makes ANY measurable difference. Neither does YOURS. Neither
> does ANYONE's.

Learn more history, please.

And why do you bother writing if this is your core belief?

> If the planet is doomed, that's it.  It is doomed.
> If it isn't, it isn't.
> I will assume it isn't and gamble on the future.

Doomed by whom?

> What will YOU do? Try to change the beliefs of other people? If so,
> good luck!

They got it from somewhere...

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