X-Message-Number: 19834 From: Keith <> Subject: John Grigg's excuses for prejudice and racism in the mormon church Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:33:59 -0700 To John Grigg The probablem with excusing prejudice in one area is that the same arguments can be used in other areas like cryonics. Just look at what the media has called us. People are prejudiced against cryonicists for some of the same reasons that the mormon church has continued it's racism against Blacks worldwide. The real question is do you think that the way that the mormon church treated Blacks was wrong. (Like prohibiting interracial dating at brigam Young University in the 70's.) If so, do you think it was wrong for the church not to have apologized and admitted that what it did was wrong? "Yes" or "No" will do just fine. Please do not rewrite my past. It was "many mormons" not "a few" as you have stated after all I should know I was there! From your post about the Black bishop I guess you are not black and therefore would not be the subject of racism and so to you there is not much racism in the mormon church. You don't see it because most of the encounters that you observe are either Black-Black or White-White because Blacks comprise only 10% of the population. The probability of a Black encountering a White is much higher than you encountering a Black. Keith R. Dugu NO SPAM -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> Comment: If you decrypted the above message then store it encrypted mQGiBDULe+YRBADUywd6brECHKAiWuc2uO/fqmnkjTbuawuieSIsYSiW8u2ZEhpH zauVhfn8+qUj0qEDzUsAy6P62zRyxMuyr6XPkqC2IgNYnJU9t0V5erATzV1DipM3 RVJY8TwaByYke2Ze7cALAXR0LcSpWfFDzCUis12WmrxXwsJKaKdo+ow2ywCg/3V8 vG6/7edhuWQaWoLkPE8bFk8D/jsRnV+RMlrz2aClkPKGzhEJ0LMRSrIE0VLATsbd VYNnxi2U/RU7oDiZif/86l4VOs7U1GxcIfPFJpEVMjCRknq4GXiUk4mdG5lWLt3V FikRFAkWePeSMjuAfLuXgxo+TTXvc23C7blKQCejI6rtuuEJL4EFpMYIHDk5FB1f V6b1A/4l1ecDQVgXeEpuQScejADXDdFlAi3JId9W1oGCtJiZuIvetPO9ZgGz17oO MJv5rdyLlP3JlEiTonGYGZHimVPqbAKooJ95ZOmat3IYJ3M6ANWod0WZd0h7ZFiV u/e/dHKw9DY6tza2viL3gugB26VI7JWCMsM0PGd/ONJ/adHNc7QuS2VpdGggUmVu ZSBEdWd1ZSA8a2VpdGguZHVndWVAaW50ZXJuZXRtY2kuY29tPokASwQQEQIACwUC NQt75gQLAwIBAAoJEE79fUZZPbOixEwAoK+KDiymvtybRIhkg4RyNGCmt56EAJ99 91A2zbKAuz9y/UUcxt2PBSo56rkCDQQ1C3vnEAgA9kJXtwh/CBdyorrWqULzBej5 UxE5T7bxbrlLOCDaAadWoxTpj0BV89AHxstDqZSt90xkhkn4DIO9ZekX1KHTUPj1 WV/cdlJPPT2N286Z4VeSWc39uK50T8X8dryDxUcwYc58yWb/Ffm7/ZFexwGq01ue jaClcjrUGvC/RgBYK+X0iP1YTknbzSC0neSRBzZrM2w4DUUdD3yIsxx8Wy2O9vPJ I8BD8KVbGI2Ou1WMuF040zT9fBdXQ6MdGGzeMyEstSr/POGxKUAYEY18hKcKctaG xAMZyAcpesqVDNmWn6vQClCbAkbTCD1mpF1Bn5x8vYlLIhkmuquiXsNV6TILOwAC Agf/aykzIA0XF0OAzcibwNRYL3SgXrZHlyX1V3yjHYOv5pudtNxtUopCj63SkDFD 4EheL7j/EGngu2KbcbbE6plRK2WmdOK4KIuzBgOABoEpglBI6gScwvBDkHezVqyM MdSbe/bzrHFp6G+hKz3fQMuM1VK2PVSYcA+7R7DtIPNh5MIOsmVcqqZsNbh93QlD b2OKvhqitcJqNt8AHQjhQTVI5c5wmzqRtj3xnGrkeBovGfYEXEHJDH6mlQ6aIalL 3z4tDEAeCMlFYxXplU8JQ7xJPhdPgI1zQR1rihJNNBiGrfAAxT8KeS6bcxAo72+5 PXXIXg+tJDsOV6Ihi/ylWt/ygIkARgQYEQIABgUCNQt75wAKCRBO/X1GWT2zom3s AKDssc1uowUMhZObPiKpRNvs9PjUNQCg838E1lzbDC0MGxGSVal5e2LO3Ro= =NGwr -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=19834