X-Message-Number: 20367 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 04:41:38 -0800 From: James Swayze <> Subject: My Bad! Plus more toughts on preparation. References: <> For Bob, Dear friend it's my fault for not researching before mentioning anything. I never thought CI had such a thing. Everyone talks about the Alcor bracelet. I don't think I've ever noticed the CI bracelet, let alone necklace talked about here. I didn't know to ask for one and that's my fault for not researching more throughly. For Thomas, I just got to thinking the other day, 'I wonder how many people have actually gone to the trouble of covering as many bases as I was thinking of doing?'. I'd like to take a census and then begin a campaign of we each bugging each other to get off our collective duffs and do it... if it does in fact turn out that many or a few have not. This of course assumes everyone wants to go to such measures. For all, I'm concerned that if one is relying on just family and one's bracelet, mainly, to get the message across at the necessary moment, then perhaps it's not enough to increase the odds of a better and timely suspension. There is the case of relying on one's medical professionals if one is in the hospital or hospice. It's probably debatable whether even then one needs extra notification devices. Being in hospice care with a suspension team on standby is the ideal situation but life, or rather in this case death, is not always so obliging. Even if in the hospital suppose one is not apparently sick enough to have a standby team, then you get a late replacement for a sick nurse or a float that is not informed of your intentions and they happen to be the one to find you deanimated. Also regarding tattoos, being a long time veteran of many surgeries, I can tell you all they normally pull your jewelry and place it in a safe or request you not bring it to the hospital at all for insurance liability reasons. I'm not sure if medical alert jewelry is treated the same. If so it's another reason for a tattoo. I've never had a medical alert bracelet but I can imagine they rely upon your chart and the wrist band they give you for the normal type of information a medical alert bracelet usually carries. There's no room on those wrist bands for 'cryonics first aid' instructions. Part of my brainstorming over this involves, as John De Rivas has proposed, getting the meme out there so it is more common for those that will in emergency situations be handling us to become beforehand aware of 'cryonics first aid' procedures. For instance, suppose one was to consider informing not only one's local emergency and fire department personnel and medical examiners but also any potential same types in places one travels to frequently. This would be multiplying the spread of the meme. In disparate areas you'd have people talking about those friendly and prescient cryonics people they met. Thisd has the double benefit of simplu informing more of the public of cryonics. If there happens to be overlap of two or several indviduals informingthe same agencies than all the better... they'll think it's an epidmic. For instance I am planning to notify the administrations of all the hospitals in my area as any is a possibility that I might be taken to in an emergency depending where I am at time of such an emergency or need of a particular procedure solely performed at this or that establishment. I intend to get them to sign an agreement to follow my requested procedures. If they won't agree I'll have to try and avoid that particular institution and inform them so. I wish I had done all this long before now. Unfortunately, I am headed to the hospital tomorrow morning. I may be gone a few days. Some tests are going to be needed, I'm sure. I'm saying this because some have been emailing me and may wonder why I'm not responding. I suppose I should say what's up so you all aren't wondering needlessly. Since Saturday morning I've had a fair amount of bleeding in my urine. It may be a kidney stone or it may be that my stint in my urethra has torn loose. It's not stopping so tomorrow we go. I'd have gone earlier but sometimes this happens due to an infection but I am often asymptomatic as to infections and so without a fever there's no treating those and it goes away quickly... not so this time. :( Don't worry, I'm tough and too onery to allow this to be serious. I hope to see lots of discussion about preparation when I get back. :) James -- Cryonics Institute of Michigan Member! The Immortalist Society Member! The Society for Venturism Member! MY WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/~davidpascal/swayze/ While there follow the links to photos of me and some of my artwork and a radio interview on Dr. J's ChangeSurfer Radio program with me and the father of cryonics Prof. Robert Ettinger, author of "The Prospect of Immortality". A RELIGION I actually recommend: http://www.venturist.org A FAVORITE quote: Last lines of the first Star Trek the Next Generation movie. Capt. Picard: "What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived, after all Number One, we're only mortal." Will Ryker: "Speak for yourself captain, I intend to live forever!" Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20367