X-Message-Number: 20585
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:31:40 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #20580 - #20584

Hi everyone!

About Alan Mole's comments:

First, on the unfortunately negative side, as I understand it you
have to be of Dutch nationality to use the Dutch laws about 
euthanasia. It may be better to try to get euthanasia established
in a US state --- like Washington. Due to the US Federal government
not seeing the point, this may be difficult.

Given that cryonicists can have some kind of arranged "death" (though
it isn't really death!) it makes sense to start thinking about
how to do it well. So Mole's questions are good questions. If we
can get cryonic suspension accepted as a way to "die" by those
who do not believe in the ideas of cryonics, then we can hope for
such research. One fundamental difference between our beliefs 
and the general beliefs, even among doctors, is that we have a
notion of death which differs from the general notion. Even Mole's
questions presuppose our notion rather than the common one.

                 Best wishes and long long life for all,

                      Thomas Donaldson

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