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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:26:52 EST
Subject: Re: 2 cents on cheaper cryonics alternatives

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From: Doug Skrecky <>
Subject: 2 cents on cheaper cryonics alternatives

> I think a credible, cheaper alternative to conventional cryonics could be
> developed, after some experimentation is done. 

I first I found cryonics too costly and rather bad on the conservation side. 
I was mostly interested by freeze drying, but there too are some drawbacks, 
the largest is that long duration storrage implies very strong drying and 
what remain is very frail, any shock and you get a pile of dust. Any moist 
air destroy the conservation process. In fact, only space is a safe place for 
freeze drying, both the final drying and storrage. Costs and risks are then 
far above those of cryonics.

Another problem is that someday there may be the technology basis for a 
reanimation but there are too few bodies with a given conservation process to 
pay for the technological adaptation. For example Alcor or CI patients from a 
given period of time could be brought back to life but other, even with 
"better" conservation could not because they are too few. For example, CI has 
a policy of low price and rather basic conservation technology. Alcor is more 
costly and more "advanced". As I understand, their conservation protocol 
undergoes frequent shifts so there is few bodies using the same 
products/process. It could be economical to reanimate some hundred of CI 
patients but to do the same for batch 4325 modified 3432 of Alcor with only 
two bodies.

I think the key to cryonics is to find new way to finance it so it becomes 
the Ford T of this domain. With many users will come large cryostats with 
lower surface/volume ratio and so lower LN2 loss. Costs will go down that 
way, without other technologies.

To summarize my opinion: Stick to cryonics, don't shift too often the 
conservation process, look at new ways to finance it.

Yvan Bozzonetti.

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