X-Message-Number: 21512
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:38:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Charles Platt <>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #21495 - #21504
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From Robert Ettinger:

> this was not the case, and in fact (as of early this year), as I was told,
> there have been no successes in vitrifying rabbit kidneys.

From whom did you learn this? On what date? This kind of statement is not
very persuasive if you don't name a source. Moreover, since you are making
statements that tend to denigrate the work of the scientists involved, it
would be advisable to verify the statements before posting them.

> What they have done is load and unload kidneys with a "vitrifiable
> concentration" of perfusate, with 100% survival. In other words, zero
> toxicity--but not vitrification, and not at temperatures even as low as that
> of dry ice.

Again, where is your source? Did you actually bother to pick up the phone
and call anyone at the lab? If so, did you make a note of what the people
at the lab actually said to you? I await your answer with interest.

--CP

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