X-Message-Number: 21805 From: Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:27:00 EDT Subject: The Movement to Starve James --part1_1cd.a59ec5b.2c038c44_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >What the welfare hawks don't realize is that their rules prevent people from being tax payers rather than tax drains. If they'd allow people to make whatever they could through work or investing, not even reaching full self sufficiency, and still be able to receive their medical they would reduce significantly the drain that they are. In this way with wise investment counseling or even guided investment for the less mentally competent they could eventually become self sufficient and no longer be a drain at all!! You're absolutely right, James. And the more you learn about government programs, the less you'll believe that their intention is to help the poor. The agriculture subsidies that force up the price of food (and cost more than 1/3 as much as the GROSS farm income), the Aid to Dependent Dictators that keeps half the world's kleptocracies in power (most of which goes out through banks and is then "monetized" by the Fed), the FDA (you've heard of them, I believe), etc. etc. The reason that people are dependent on welfare instead of direct charity from their fellow man is very simple, James: government has stolen most of the money. If the posters on Cryonet had their accumulated losses from taxes, inflation, and regulation back in their pockets, you'd be getting a lot more help than you do from welfare. Anyway, if you asked the poster instead of blowing up at him, I'm sure he was thinking first and foremost of welfare for the rich. Welfare for the poor just hurts the poor (because of the destructive anti-productivity regulations, as you point out); welfare for the rich keeps us all permanently under their hired politicians. Of course I could be wrong, and maybe there are a couple of people out there who belong to a Movement to starve the legitimately disabled. But unless they get government power, what does that matter? - Bill --part1_1cd.a59ec5b.2c038c44_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21805