X-Message-Number: 22048 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:08:14 -0700 From: James Swayze <> Subject: Why Dean?/The beginning of the end of our nanotech dreams References: <> >Message #22032 >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:48:36 -0400 >From: Thomas Donaldson <> >Subject: CryoNet #22027 - #22031 > >Hi everyone! > >For "Mark": who is Howard Dean and why should I vote for him? >Remember that I am now a US citizen living outside the US, and >may not have heard about some of the more obscure contenders. > > > He's a doctor. He wants better health care for more people. Mark says he actually championed curing death in an Iowa speech. I'm looking http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=downloads http://mattbailey.blogspot.com/politics/deanquotes.html http://quotes.fordean.org/DeanVolunteers/quotes.asp http://store.yahoo.com/just-politics/howdeanofver.html >Message #22036 >From: >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:56:59 EDT >Subject: Re: CryoNet #22019 - #22026 > >In a message dated 6/19/03 2:01:21 AM, writes: > ><< Jos Luis Cordeiro is President of the Sociedad Mundial del Futuro >Venezuela, and author of The Great Taboo. An engineer and economist with >expertise in global affairs, he is Director of the Club of Rome (Venezuela) >> > >I don't know who this person is but the "Club of Rome" is a notorious group >of doomsdayers who would probably be happy to scratch out any trace of the >cryonics movement. Nice to see that Drexler is on this panel but I have to remain >deeply suspicious of this outfit as another opportunity for Ludditites to >vent their spleen. >Ron Havelock, a true believer in our science and technology based future. > Well isn't this interesting. Seems my first imlression of CRN was on target. Then we have the following stories supplied by the ever watchful Nanogirl. Thanks Gina. It was bad enough having Bill "Killjoy" Joy mouthing off but now look. The luddites are howling loudly and getting help from those that should know better. We'll be lucky if the future turns out as we need it when voice is given to those that would destroy our dream. Stay tuned below. > > >Nanotechnology Commission Wants Your Help in Assessing Benefits and Risks. A >UK commission will assess the potential benefits and risks of nanotechnology >and nanoscience, as well as make recommendations as to how the emerging >fields should be regulated..."A key role of the project will be to separate >the hype and hypothetical from the reality," says the chair of the study, >professor Ann Dowling. Dowling is calling on stakeholders from academia, >industry, lobby groups and the general public to contact the commission to >express their views and worries. (Betterhumans 6/13/03) >http://www.betterhumans.com/News/news.aspx?articleID=2003-06-13-1 > >The government (UK) today launched an independent study into the benefits >and risks of nanotechnology, the science of manipulating ultra-small >particles. The Royal Society and the Royal Academy of Engineering have been >commissioned to look at this emerging area of science, engineering and >technology to see how it should be regulated as it develops. >(The Guardian 6/11/03) >http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/research/story/0,9865,975190,00.html > >(Book) Is the end nigh? Sir Martin Rees, Britain's most distinguished >theoretical astrophysicist and one of its best writers on matters >cosmological, is no stranger to catastrophe; he has a professional interest >in supernovae, gamma-ray bursts, cannibal galaxies and many of the >universe's other savageries. In Our Final Century, though, his concern is >not just destruction, but self-destruction. The 20th century, he points out, >was the first in which humanity's chance of self-destruction shot up above >the eschatological background noise...But the heart of his argument is the >risk of intentional destruction. Like Bill Joy, chief scientist of Sun >Microsystems, who wrote an influential article on the matter in Wired a few >years ago, Rees fears that biotechnology and nanotechnology will provide >greater potential for destruction, and permit ever smaller groups - or >indeed individuals - to make use of them. (The Guardian 6/14/03) >http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,975702,00.html > >Rage Against the (Green) Machine. First came the concerns about nuclear >power. Then, the fears about genetically modified foods. Now, European and C >anadian environmentalists have a new, lab-made monstrosity to rail against: >nanotechnology. Last week, at the Brussels headquarters of the European >Parliament, Greenpeace, GeneWatch U.K., the ETC Group and others held a >teach-in, of sorts. The goal was to highlight the potential dangers that >could arise when scientists start manipulating matter at the nano -- >billionth of a meter -- level. Nano-sized bits are so small that they can >penetrate your skin, get into your lungs, and travel through your body >unmolested by the immune system, argues ETC program manager Jim Thomas. >Research, he claims, shows that matter gets more toxic when it's shrunk to >the super-small -- no matter what the material is. -What?- (Wired 6/19/03) >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,59287,00.html > > Johnny-zzz's is your basic hard-assed punk street rat 'not' livng in the 'zone'. He's called Johnny-zzz's for the number of gray's he's sleeped. Sleepin gray's comes easy to Johnny-zzz's though the usual game is extortion and kidnapping. Grays will pay a lot for 'nals'. Nals is short for 'originals' meaning not yet 'ghosted'. Grays live in the 'citidel' a very clean and very secure high walled city-state where nots aren't allowed. There's only two kinds of folks anymore. There's the grays, so called because though their bodies never age they haven't yet found a way to keep their hair from turning gray. Johnny-zzz's thinks it's from the stress he and his ilk cause the grays. Some try dying their hair but they are called 'streaks' for obvious reasons. Johnny-zzz's loves ghosting gray nals. Ghosting is when you sleep an original gray and his buddies bring him back as a dupe minus his death experience of course. Maybe it's because the grays think they really haven't died that Johnny-zzz's likes ghostin em so much. Mostly Johnny-zzz's preys on grays for the cash. Lack of cash is what makes 'nots' in the first place. This divided society all starts with the mega-corp CRN aka "ConCRNed" as nots call it because the concerned orignators of CRN got con'ed. Way back in the 'time before' their founders started out with ideals, innocent and wanting to help humanity ideals but innocent really should be called naive looking back. They eventually got taken over by those that wanted to control the nantech that makes grays live so long so that it could never be free for all human beings. This made for a lot of money for them because grays would have to pay every so often to rejuv their bodies. The grays thought naively it was to protect them from evil runaway nantech. It wasn't long before the economy favored those that 'have' over those that 'have not' because long lived grays could mass huge fortunes sitting on interest accounts. Nots couldn't keep up trapped in short lives and society was ever since divided. Nots will never cross over because ConCRNed long ago decided it wasn't economically feasible to allow people under the 10 million dollar a year income level to even buy the nantech. They walled off the citidel to keep the nots on their side of the tracks for good. However, nots are daring owing to their devil-may-care attitudes and they are clever in their own right so they find the occasional hole in the wall. Now predaters like Johnny-zzz's, born to die, short lived and caring for nothing and no one, lurk for unsuspecting grays to get back a little of what his birthright denied him. to be continued, maybe, but hopefully it stays fiction. James -- Cryonics Institute of Michigan Member! The Immortalist Society Member! The Society for Venturism Member! MY WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/~davidpascal/swayze/ Signature Memetic Virus--The worst enemy of those who now or will need medical care is the politician and proselytizing religious fanatic who proscribes what doctors are allowed to prescribe and research, with the consent of their patients. Those who understand this are strongly encouraged to modify this to fit their personality, and add this to their signature file, and organize to recover our freedom from Big Brother. For those who wait until they are sick, it will be too late. Those who suffer from diseases which might have been cured by fetal tissue research or schedule 1 drugs banned by Big Brother, have the right to hold accountable those who sat on their hands or worse, deferred their responsibility for personal and humanity's survival to useless gods and pontificating religious quacks, while they remained ill and dying. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22048