X-Message-Number: 2230 From: (Thomas Donaldson) Subject: Re: cryonics: #2220-#2223 Date: Mon, 10 May 93 14:21:54 PDT About 21ST CENTURY MEDICINE: This is a corporation founded by Saul Kent to do research into several issues important for cryonics suspension and immortalism generally. Currently the people who will receive research grants are already chosen, and known to the immortalist community and people who will not decide to spend their grants on any matters which do not pertain to eliminating aging and improving cryonic suspension. Saul's current plans are to limit the lower size of an investment to $10,000 and solicitations for investment have begun. Saul Kent himself has been involved in both subjects for many years. He may be reached on: Saul Kent 16280 Whispering Spur Riverside, CA 92504 Phone: (909) 780-3252 Fax: (909) 780-5758 Although the ultimate hope is to find commercial applications for these techniques, that hope may well not be realized soon. For instance, several lifespan experiments with different drugs are planned on mice; their outcome will not be known until a minimum of 3 years have passed. The other experiments may be completed as experiments before then, but the project will take much longer than that to complete. It is likely that investors will be solicited more than once to support this company before any concrete results (other than scientific papers!) result from the work it underwrites. If you wish to invest-contribute $10000 you may contact Saul at the numbers listed. A group is forming now of those who may wish to invest-contribute smaller amounts but that group is not far along. If you contact Saul expressing interest in it, he will refer you to the persons involved. If you sent your message out of interest in cryonic suspension, my personal suggestion is to contact the ALCOR LIFE EXTENSION SOCIETY at 1-800-367-2228 to receive information on arranging for your cryonic suspension. If you look at Alcor closely, you will find a small group of people struggling to maintain existing suspension patients and acquire more members. They will tell you openly of the other groups independent of them; my personal opinion is that they remain the best cryonic society available. Again, if you think that you might SOMEDAY want to be suspended, my own strong advice would be to join such a society NOW. Alcor has accepted last minute cases, but for quite a number of reasons I feel that they should return to their old policy of refusing to do so. 21ST CENTURY MEDICINE is formed to conduct research only. Finally, if you believe such research is already going on, you need to become informed of some sad truths. There are scientists involved with cryonics; but the non-cryonicist authorities have proven not merely indifferent but hostile to it. 21ST CENTURY MEDICINE was formed to support just that research which no one outside cryonics is willing to do. No one in cryonics will claim that their suspension methods are perfect and without a serious risk of failure; most authorities OUTSIDE cryonics actively want that situation to continue. Clearly if such research is not done, suspension methods will not improve, and when it comes time for your personal suspension you will have to face that disagreeable fact. Best wishes, and long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2230