X-Message-Number: 22706 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:39:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Randall Burns <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #22700 - #22704 The United States already accepts more immigrants than EU countries with a substantially larger population. I personally find it quite plausible that we'll see all countries starting to close their borders as the world fills up. It isn't like the "globalism" experiment has no detractors. I also find it quite plausible that when space is opened up, we'll see a tendency away from multi-national states. Globalism and multi-national states have both been largely driven by attempts on the part of elites to avoid wars through economic integration. http://www.nwc.navy.mil/newrulesets/ (more on that topic). Stuff like 911 indicates that attempt may not be successful. I can believe that if WW IV turns hot (WW III being the cold war), then we'll see both some of the advancements necesary for space travel and with that a tendency towards re-establishment of national or clan based states(similar to what we saw in Europe after the breakup of the Roman empire). --- CryoNet <> wrote: > Message #22702 > From: "Robin Helweg-Larsen" > <> > Subject: Population and immigration > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:58:13 -0400 > > Bob Thimblerig seems not to like immigrants to the > United States. Many > native peoples might agree with him; but increasing > population movements are > a reality, world-wide, for the foreseeable future. > > So if you're not comfortable with a very mobile and > diverse world, you might > like to rethink plans to wake up 100 years in the > future. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22706