X-Message-Number: 22886 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:41:06 -0700 From: Mike Perry <> Subject: Re: Live Free or Die #22876: >... >Does it have a state income tax, property tax, building dept., zoning dept. >Do state bureaucrats tell business people how to run their businesses. How >about a welfare dept.? And on and on. If it [NH] has any of these its >motto (as >well as the other 49 states) should be:"Live as we say or die"! But this sort of thing could be said about any law whatever: obey this law or die. A sufficiently determined resistance to the law will result, eventually, in the application of force by the state to compel compliance (otherwise the citizen could overrule the law and it really isn't a "law"). And again, if the citizen chooses to resist force with force and carry out a private war and "never surrender" it will ultimately terminate, if the law is enforced, in the state offing the citizen. Yes, things like income and property taxes, building safety codes, zoning laws and the like are encroachments on personal freedom just as all other laws are, and are especially irksome to some. We want to have freedom, but I think a good point has been made that some ideas about how best to secure this freedom sound better in theory than they would work in practice. A libertarian state with a no-taxes, limited government has still to be implemented on any sizable scale, as far as I know. One wonders if it could be, as long as we stay at the human level. Human nature prevented the socialist "utopia" from working, and may also do so here, for somewhat different reasons. Mike Perry Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22886