X-Message-Number: 23344 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:51:49 +0800 (CST) From: =?big5?q?kurt2100kimo?= <> Subject: My views compared to others Jonathon, I honestly do not know if my views are typical of other cryonics people. I was in the meliu in the late 80's. Then I went to grad school, then ended up in Asia for the next 10 years of my life. I have had very little contact with other cryonics people, except for a small group in Japan (mostly gaijin) whose views and life-styles are similar to mine. I am into life because I am into adventure. Living 10 years in Asia, with little contact with people back in the U.S. has changed me somewhat. I am currently living in the state, but am planning to return to Asia. I am married (happily so) but have no desire for kids. My marriage is like "going steady for life". My wife (who is Japanese) is also interested in a return to Asia. I do believe that immortality (or agelessness, as a better word) will lead to a more "bohemian" society. When I say this to expats (gaijin in Japan and Asia), they seem to like and agree with this. For some reason, the suggestion of an ageless, bohemian society seems to really push a button in people here in the states. I don't know why this is. People here seem to be like little facists. I really don't like it. I also notice that people here seem much more uptight, compared to the late 80's. However, there are positive changes as well. Gays and other alternative sexualities seem to more socially accepted today than 20 years ago. I'm a fairly conservative guy myself, but feel more comfortable in liberal social melieus than conservative ones. I have also noticed that the expats are much more open to cryonics and immortality, when I talk to them about it; compared to people back here. This is why I think that the largest potential market for cryonics is the expat/adventurer population. In the two and a half years I have been back in the states, I find that I have very little in common with most people back here. That, combined with a lack of business/employment opportunities, makes a return to Asia much more attractive. The biggest problem with the marketability of cryonics is that we really do not have a "product" yet. That is, we cannot cryo-preserve people and bring them out again, reversibly. Of course, this is not going to be possible for a long time and there is no point to bringing people out until we have cured aging. However, if we could develop verifiable neuro-preservation, and show that the constituents of memory and identity are still there; that would constitute a real "product" in the minds of the target market (the expat/adventurers who are not techno-geeks like us) such that they may consider signing up. Saul Kent has said these same things some years back, and he is entirely right. C Yahoo! _ C B B R A A b H http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23344