X-Message-Number: 23463 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:09:02 +0800 (CST) From: =?big5?q?kurt2100kimo?= <> Subject: Non-fear of death I have to agree with Robert Ettinger. Fear of death is not the major motivator in cryonics, at least for me. I used to mountain climb, and got into an avalanche once. I stepped off a drop-off during a white-out another time, and still insisted on climbing the damned mountain. I've been nearly shot three times (twice in Mexico and once in the U.S.) and was freaked out about it for maybe 5 minutes after the situation was defused in each case. My friends were freaked out alot longer than I was and they're not even interested in cryonics. I've flown on two airliners that have subsequently crashed several months later (one was with China Airlines). I don't climb now because my wife won't let me. I scuba dive whenever I have the chance (say, if I happen to be in Hawaii or S.E.Asia). I remember reading about the cryonics member who was beaten to death by bandits in Mali while crossing the Sahara. No, its not fear of death that drives us. Its having to live a "set" life of fixed duration that pisses me off. I don't like the idea of "settling down" and don't care much for kids. I despise the conventional "life-cycle" and seek to be free of it. Yes, I am happily married and we do not have kids. We like to travel alot, although my wife doesn't like the budget-style adventure travel (she even hates the lonely planet books) that I absolutely love. Such is life. Perhaps I have peter pan syndrone. I like to live like young person, going from here to there, trying different things. If one thing doesn't work out, I go somewhere else and try something different. Asia is good for this sort of thing, which is why I'm probably headed back there by the end of this year. The U.S. sun-belt is fun too, though not like the 80's when it was really fun. Perhaps cryonics people like adventure and don't like having it cut short by something as inconvenient as aging and a fixed life-span. The two traits I would look for in potential cryonics member are 1) desire for adventure and 2) desire to be free from a "set life" (i.e. get married, settle down, have kids, grow old and die; in a set pattern). Lonely Planet travellers would be good candidates except for the fact that many of them are under the influence of left-wing politics. Any lonely planet people who are libertarian are definitely good prospects for cryonics. Many of the gaijin in Japan and rest of Asia tend to have a pseudo-libertarian world-view. Others are greens. Religious conservatives are almost non-existant in this melieu. They don't deal well with the various Asian cultures. The traits I would look for in potential customers/members are: 1) Sense of adventure 2) Desire to be free of "set" life 3) Quasi-libertarian world-view 4) Some knowledge or interest in science and technology Sincerely, Kurt C Yahoo! _ C B B R A A b H http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23463