X-Message-Number: 23528 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Cooperation Not Confrontation Defines Future of Cryonics in Arizona Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:45:28 -0000 > From: Paul Antonik Wakfer <> > Subject: Re: Cooperation Not Confrontation Defines Future of Cryonics in Arizona > > At the conclusion of that meeting, Representative Stump demonstrated > > outstanding leadership and courage by agreeing in principle to consider > > amendments to his bill that would eliminate some of the most serious > > concerns of Alcor and its membership in a show of good faith. We were most > > impressed. > > This compromise to government threats instead of a principled stand is > but the latest of many examples of unacceptable behavior from Alcor > leadership. All such appeasement leads ultimately to disaster. > It may be worth considering that there is no such thing as "government" in any absolute sense, only groups of individuals whose social status means that other individuals cooperate with them in ways that normal people do not cooperate. Looked at in that way, it seems most sensible for the Alcor management to deal with the matter in the way they did. Who knows, it may mean that some of these people with the aforesaid social status have been forced to consider cryonics on a rational, rather than reactive (jump to conclusions) basis. Maybe in the years to come they will join Alcor or CI themselves. It may well be that the Rev David Koresh could have been said to have made a principled stand at Waco, and look where that got him. Pragmatism rules, OK! -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23528