X-Message-Number: 23654
From: "Kitty Antonik Wakfer" <>
Subject: RE: Correction Warranted in #23607
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:29:17 -0700

> Message #23641
> From: "Kitty Antonik Wakfer" <>
> Subject: RE: Correction Warranted in #23607
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:04:02 -0700

I sent the following message to Michael Ashburner, group leader for the
FlyBase Group in the Department of Genetics at Cambridge University and
received the response below it:

-----Original Message-----
From: Kitty Antonik Wakfer [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:32 AM
To: 
Subject: Clarification of Position


Dear Dr. Ashburner,

There are numerous places on the Internet, where Aubrey de Grey is referred
to as a biogerontologist in the Department of Genetics at Cambridge
University. However your FlyBase Group website in that department lists him
as a computer associate. Would you please verify whether or not Aubrey de
Grey is employed as a biogerontologist in the Department of Genetics at
Cambridge University. If he is not, would you please provide a brief job
description of his position in your department.

Thank you very much in advance.


**Kitty Antonik Wakfer

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Ashburner (Genetics) [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:50 AM
To: 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Clarification of Position


de Grey is employed (now part time) as a computer scientist on the
FlyBase project. Gerontology is his passion but his work in this field
is private. He does have a PhD in gerontology.

Michael Ashburner

The type of computer work Aubrey performs (maintenance of the Drosophila
database) is not what I would describe as that of a "computer scientist",
nor does it fall under the following dictionary definitions:
"1. computer scientist -- (a scientist who specializes in the theory of
computation and the design of computers)"
http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stage=1&word=computer+scientis
t
"Definition:   [n]  a scientist who specializes in the theory of computation
and the design of computers "
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/computer+scientist

However the Computing Sciences Accreditation Board, Inc. provides a rather
broad description, which in my mind includes much in the realm of computer
engineering: http://waris.free.fr/grafik/page-def-comsci.htm

Since Aubrey's supervisor considers him a computer scientist on the FlyBase
project, now only part time, that description can be considered acceptable.
The main point of Dr. Ashburner's message is verification that Aubrey's work
in gerontology is private and not part of his work for the FlyBase project,
nor of any association with Cambridge. This does not mean that anyone should
not consider Aubrey a biogerontologist. He is an independent/private
biogerontologist, and should make this clear since this is quite unusual, so
that people are not mislead that his biogerontology work is associated with
Cambridge University.

Once again I wish to emphasize what was stated in earlier messages and
elsewhere, I (and Paul) have always regarded Aubrey's purposeful transition
from computers to biology and his dedicated use of free time for
independent/private scientific biogerontological work to be highly
admirable.


**Kitty Antonik Wakfer

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