X-Message-Number: 23664 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Trygve's facility ideas, and freedom of movement Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:27:43 -0000 > it should noted that Norway is NOT a member of the EC <del> > see http://userpage.chemie.fu-berlin.de/adressen/eu.html So it isn't (It is Sweden -- I always thought it was Sweden not Norway that didn't join) . But maybe it would still be easier for Trygve to start his facility in the UK than in the USA. But I suppose the rise in terrorism is inevitably going to see an enormous increase in xenophobia amongst ordinary people as well as those who have gained positions of authority. That is exactly the effect that terrorists want and are getting. I seem to remember that when South Africa was a "pariah nation" restrictions of movement was one of the complaints people made about its government. This is not good news for cryonics. Because there are so few cryonicists in the entire world, the more compartmentalisation there is the harder is it for the concept to grow. If current trends continue, soon it may not even be possible to move from one county to another within the same country without going through an enormous regulatory hoop. It should be borne in mind that today it is quicker to get to the other side of the world than it was to get from Penzance to London before the age of the railways. Yet before the age of the railways you could move from Penzance to London or visa versa without having to get permits and so on. If movement restrictions do increase to the county level, and cryonics doesn't grow to the points there are hundreds of cryonicists in every town, then the cryonics concept will be put under greater pressure. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23664