X-Message-Number: 23668 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:21:33 -0700 From: Mike Perry <> Subject: Frozen "dead" guy >After all we are paying more than USD 750 a month to keep him on dry ice. > >Sincerely, > >Trygve Bauge This works out to more than $9,000 per year, $90,000 in ten years. The man should be transferred to liquid nitrogen storage, which by indications is far better, longterm, than the much warmer dry ice. Storage at a public facility could be arranged, one would think, given the amounts of funding that are currently going into storage in the private shed. This would also be safer because public facilities are better attended. (I don't think anyone is present 24 hours at the current site. It appears that someone drives up every now and then to replenish the dry ice. What if some malicious person gets it into his/her head to harm the patient meanwhile? Then there are other possible dangers, such as a combination of warm weather, transportation difficulties, illness of the attendant, occasional shortage of funds, and so on, that could compromise things sometimes. The chain of continuing care is no stronger than its weakest link. And there is the issue of what happens if something happens to Trygve.) If the patient is just seen as a "dead guy" as the public generally believes (and wants to believe), none of this matters, of course. You might as well enjoy yourself, if you don't have a problem over the "dignity" issue and always keep things sanitary. In cryonics, though, we see it differently, and the quality and continuity of preservation must be taken very seriously. I am, of course, in favor of *good* publicity for cryonics, and I'll credit Trygve at least with keeping his relative frozen all this time (assuming the care quality has *always* been adequate). But in other ways I have misgivings about this whole thing. Mike Perry Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23668