X-Message-Number: 23713 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:35:32 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Badger <> Subject: Re: Kennita Kennita wrote: "That may be true, but if so, I can't say that Alcor or any of the other cryonics organizations has done much to convince me that they have perfected said control or said presentation. Not that this will help, but a friend to whom I explained some of this tonight said "Nothing you do could be any worse than the Ted Williams jokes on Jay Leno -- go for it!". So much for message control :-)" "Not that this will help" is exactly right. Your friend's opinion is not helpful as far as I can tell, but the fact that you include it in your message communicates that for you it has somehow reinforced your position. Is your friend part of the cryonics community? Kennita, I don't even have a strong stand on whether you should go or not, but that has no longer become the issue in my mind. I understand what a rugged individualistic libertarian type personality you have, and I respect your right to do whatever... as long as it doesn't harm others in your community. You're ignoring the wishes of about 90% of the community that has spoken up so far from what I can tell... a slightly better sampling than your n of 1 poll. Have you called ALCOR and CI to ask their PR people if they think this would be a good idea? What's their position? When I wrote to the legislators protesting Stump's bill, I received a reply from Stump telling me how naive I was; how uncritically I was accepting ALCOR's argument that it was a bad bill. I immediately drafted a reply, but first ran it past ALCOR who asked me not to send the reply (it wasn't caustic, I just told Stump that if he thought I was so uncritical that he should provide me with his counter-arguments to the talking points ALCOR had presented). I did this out of courtesy and respect to ALCOR and to my fellow cryonicists. You've always seemed such a well-reasoned person. I find it hard to understand why you have become so defensive and firm in your position here. Please tell us how it is that you are better informed and more capable than the cryonics organizations in which we place our trust and in the general consensus of your peers. ===== Scott Badger, Ph.D. Assistant Professor University of Idaho __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23713