X-Message-Number: 23732 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:24:05 -0800 From: "John Grigg" <> Subject: Why mainstream cryonics SHOULD be represented at the "Frozen Dead Guy" Festival Charles Platt wrote: Kennita, I wouldn't give a damn, except that you are screwing with my life. I have already presented you with the best possible evidence that people who do wacky stuff (such as freezing your father in the back yard without getting permission, as a result of which the town outlaws cryonics) are NOT HELPFUL to everyone else. An Arizona legislator mentioned a similar case as "evidence" that all cryonics is a sham, and therefore should be regulated into oblivion. He is not the only person who thinks this way. Why do you want to give more ammunition to our enemies? (end) I think Charles is having a knee-jerk response to Kennita's potentially good idea of "showing the flag" there. Kennita doing this all on her own may not be the best idea in the sense that perhaps no one should try to do it alone (unless Alcor backs out and even then a group effort would be best). But by NOT having a mainstream cryonics booth/representative there, we are setting ourselves up by default to be in a position where we end up looking really bad (as we get lumped in with Trygve's inept attempt at "do it yourself" body preservation by the public & media). If Alcor or the Society for Venturism were to set up a very professional looking booth which was manned by friendly, balanced and knowledgeable people, we could do some good and offset a great deal of potential longterm derision from a festival which perhaps could be said to openly mock our goals. So I think the big question here is this..., do we have the people, money, resources and will to set up a booth there and make a good impression on the media and the festival goers? I hope we do. Rudi Hoffman did give some great ideas for what we could do either in place of a booth or in conjunction with it. I hope Alcor and its membership will choose to hit this festival from every angle to turn things in our favor. Thoughts? best wishes, John Grigg Society for Venturism Alcor member ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23732