X-Message-Number: 23939
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:23:36 -0400
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #23929 - #23937

Hi everyone!

A brief comment: it looks to me from reading Mike Perry's comments
in the 20 April issue of Cryonet that I was both wrong and right
in my suggestions as to why some cryonicists feel that Goedel 
bears on us and our future.

A bit more, in the hope that it may deconfuse these issues. I said
specifically that human beings were not hyperadvanced computers.
However I did NOT say that we could not be seen as machines. How
can a thinking machine not be subject to Goedel's theorem? By
not thinking according to any fixed formal system (I've found this
hard to explain to some people before, and this point may not make
what I say any clearer, but there it is). Our brains don't work 
like computers.

As for Mike Perry's comments, given that Mike thinks that we DO
think like computers, they partly provide an illustration of 
what I said.

             B est wishes and long long life to all,

                  Thomas Donaldson

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