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From: "michaelprice" <>
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Subject: Re : More reasons to get to North America, while you can
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:38:21 +0100

Mark Plus claims that trying to utilise Albertian oil is 
"pseudoscientific, like trying to build a perpetual
 motion machine:" apparently in ignorance that the link
he supplied quotes a positive EROEI (energy return on 
energy investment) for Alberta tar oil, not a negative one
(which drew the perpetual motion comparison).

BTW, EROEIs can change with technological advances.

For another view:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3623139.stm
"Professor Peter Odell, author of Why Carbon Fuels Will Dominate The 
21st Century's Global Energy Economy, advises a relaxed approach

We are not running out of oil - we are running into oil. The world has used
15% of all the oil we believe there to be - that leaves 85% untouched.

The world in fact has a record volume of proven oil supplies - and that is
true of conventional oil, which lies in reservoirs, and non-conventional
supplies, which can be mined from rocks. Canada for example has recently
declared 175 billion barrels worth of oil from non-conventional sources in
Alberta, making it the second richest producer after Saudi Arabia.
Non-conventional supplies may be more costly to get at than conventional,
but they are still very much viable. "

Cheers,
Michael C Price
http://mcp.longevity-report.com
http://www.hedweb.com/manworld.htm

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