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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:27:44 EDT
Subject: Hayflick

>He, like Klass and other educated, but ignorant, bastards, simply does not 
want us to live beyond 70 or 80 years.  These guys think any longer life than 

that, when extended by  man alone, is immoral.  So they claim they believe they
see the facts of science supporting their moral beliefs because they want 
that to be the case.

Hayflick's book on aging is a long rant on the theme "nobody can think of 
anything that I didn't". Arthur C. Clarke's thoughts on old scientists apply.

That said, Hayflick did make a major contribution to the aging field by 
discovering somatic-cell telomere-based senescence, in opposition to the "old 

scientist" (A. Carrell) of his time. Hayflick's students (like Dr. Woodring 
Wright) 
have gone on to have rather more optimistic ideas about aging. So the moral 
of the story is not to let the old scientists make all the funding decisions.


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